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Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:04:30 -0500
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> Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1 
> Pole).  Your analogy doesn't quite fit... we all use 
> different types of poles (radios) just that some of us 
> use only ONE.

Not true at all ... go to a professional (or Olympic class) 
track and field meet.  You will find that most pole vaulters 
have between 10 and 15 poles of different lengths and stiffness. 
They may use a different pole for each jump depending on wind, 
temperature, height of the bar, etc. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul E. Dorey
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:20 PM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; k-zero-hb@earthlink.net; 'Dennis 
> Vernacchia'; 'Lee Buller'
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> 
> 
> Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1 
> Pole).  Your analogy
> doesn't quite fit... we all use different types of poles 
> (radios) just that
> some of us use only ONE.
> 
> Now I don't care if you guys do SOGazillianR.... it just 
> should not be the
> same class as someone operating with one radio...go to your 
> own class and
> then complain because you can't beat a mega station or something.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:w4tv@subich.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 18:41
> To: k-zero-hb@earthlink.net; 'Paul E. Dorey'; 'Dennis 
> Vernacchia'; 'Lee
> Buller'
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> 
> 
> Since when did you join Dianna Moon Gompers' staff?  
> 
> While calling SO1R the lazy man's contesting may be hyperbolic,  
> the constant attack on those who can and do use SO2R techniques 
> are nothing more than mantra of the Handicapper General.  
> 
> K5TR put it better than I did ... there are a series of things that 
> any competitor can do, including antennas, training and practice.  
> However, when you have done all that adding a second radio can add 
> incrementally to the final score.  Think of the selection and use 
> of SO2R in the way a pole-vaulter selects a pole ... too short a 
> pole will limit the vaulter's maximum height but a pole too long 
> for the vaulter's ability (training/practice) will be difficult 
> to control and prevent the vaulter from reaching his/her full  
> potential.  
> 
> With the second radio, a properly trained (practiced) operator 
> can search for incremental multipliers or spot short term/unexpected 
> band openings, etc.  However, if the operator does not use the 
> second radio properly - or expects it to be a "magic bullet" that 
> can be used without practice, the second radio becomes a distraction 
> just like a pole vaulter with a too tall pole.   
> 
> Still, if a serious competitor is not using SO2R or attempting to 
> develop the skill to use SO2R, he is limiting his potential just 
> as surely as if he cannot or will not us an antenna other than a 
> multiband vertical or if a pole vaulter competes with a pole shorter 
> than that of his competitors or if a boxer does not do his 
> "road work" 
> on a consistent basis.  All of those are "lazy" behaviors in failing 
> to do the work necessary to achieve the maximum results. 
> 
> Rather than limit just one aspect of the competition, provide an 
> entry or basic entry class with no advantages ... limit competitors 
> to one transceiver, no packet, no amplifier and antennas no higher 
> than 50 feet (or 30 feet) and antennas limited to no more than .5 
> wavelength of total conductor.  Such a category would provide an 
> opportunity for those in antenna restricted areas and those who do 
> not want to (or cannot) enter the "arms race" of ever bigger antennas,
> amplifiers and multiple radios. 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: K-ZERO-HB [mailto:k-zero-hb@earthlink.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:01 PM
> > To: W4TV Joe Subich; Paul E. Dorey; Dennis Vernacchia; Lee Buller
> > Cc: Tom Haavisto; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> > 
> > 
> > What a sanctimonious jerk.
> > 
> > 72.5, de Hans, K0HB/W7
> > 
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Joe Subich, W4TV <w4tv@subich.com>
> > >
> > > SO1R is the lazy person's contesting ... it is contesting with 
> > > one hand tied behind one's back, listening with one ear and 
> > > entering with half a mind. 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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