I'm a contester and don't care about dxcc... anyone who wants to publish my
logs may feel free to do so! No matter where I may go on an expedition to!
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 00:04
> To: 'Ward Silver'; 'CQ-Contest Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
>
>
> Ward,
>
> DXCC rules prohibit publishing complete logs. In the end, the
> publishing of complete logs could result in disallowance of
> DXCC credit for "contest DXpedition" QSOs and ultimately the
> disqualification from DXCC for anyone who regularly participates
> in contests which make logs public.
>
> see: http://www.arrl.org/blog/DXCC%20Dialog?ofst=25
> and: http://www.arrl.org/blog/DXCC%20Dialog?ofst=30
>
> Of particular interest:
>
> > The presentation in any public forum of logs or other
> > representations of station operation showing details of
> > station activity or other information from which all
> > essential QSO elements (time, date, band, mode and callsign)
> > for individual contacts can be derived creates a question
> > as to the integrity of the claimed QSOs with that station
> > during the period encompassed by the log. Presentation of
> > such information in any public forum by the station operator,
> > operators or associated parties is not allowed and may be
> > considered sufficient reason to deny ARRL award credit for
> > contacts with any station for which such presentations have
> > been made. Persistent violation of this provision may result
> > in disqualification from the DXCC program.
>
> Please note the prohibition of disclosing the complete log info
> by even "associated parties." I would certainly include contest
> sponsors as "associated parties." It's up to those sponsors to
> properly analyze their logs for potential rules violations but that
> analysis process MUST NOT include requiring the participants to
> violate the rules of the DXCC program (or any other program) by
> making the entire log public.
>
> Any contest sponsor who makes complete logs public should be
> censured by the entire amateur community.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ward Silver
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:44 PM
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
> >
> >
> > > Not on your life! My log is my log - I make it available to the
> > > contest sponsor for checking as a condition of entry but it is NOT
> > > public and should never be made public. There is no reason for it
> > > to be made public.
> >
> > You may choose not to share the details of your station or
> > your methods of
> > operation that can not be deduced from a public record of
> > your QSO's. But
> > all of the contacts were completely public. When it comes to
> > activities
> > conducted over the airwaves of Amateur Radio, the concept of
> > "private" ends
> > at the antenna. This is by definition - both of physics and
> > of regulation -
> > and has nothing to do with what is in your submitted log.
> >
> > The day is rapidly approaching when any station's activities
> > on the air will
> > be trackable in real-time and recorded for posterity. All it
> > takes is a few
> > receivers sprinkled around the globe with software to decode
> > the various
> > transmissions. Admittedly, unraveling a pileup may take a
> > little longer,
> > but technology is moving quickly. With enough submitted QSO's, I can
> > reconstruct your log whether you submit one or not. This is
> > not a good hobby
> > for anyone that isn't comfortable being visible.
> >
> > The very concept of a "private log" of anything involving a radio
> > transmission is on its last legs.
> >
> > 73, Ward N0AX
> >
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