> This is not inherently a bad idea at all - since everyone
> knows (or can find out) their 4-character grid square. I
> think you would probably need some sort of anti-gerrymandering
> provision, to prevent one club from defining the entire Northeast
> megalopolis as its area, or Seattle to Los Angeles.
A "14 grid" limit would prevent even a "one grid wide" area
extending from Seattle to Los Angeles. I don't think it is
possible to cover the combined area of NCCC and SCCC (all of
California) or create a "super club" encompassing everything
from northern New England (ME, VT, NH) through Central Virginia.
Still, even with a "two grid wide/two grid high" limitation
a 14 grid limit works for a lot of other clubs in "geographically
challenged" areas. It allows all of FCG to participate as a
single club, it has application to TCG/KCG and NCCC/MRCC,
probably fixes the PVRC problem, allows SMC the opportunity to
pick up the more widely spaced concentration of activity.
An alternate to a pure "14 grid" standard would be up to "n"
contiguous grids with a maximum distance of 600 miles (1000 km).
This would resolve the "bigger grids closer to the equator"
issue.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Smith [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:04 AM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club Circle Standardization was:
> Circle Jerks
>
>
> This is not inherently a bad idea at all - since everyone
> knows (or can
> find out) their 4-character grid square. I think you would
> probably need
> some sort of anti-gerrymandering provision, to prevent one club from
> defining the entire Northeast megalopolis as its area, or
> Seattle to Los
> Angeles.
>
> The main reason I didn't go that route in my proposal is that
> I am looking
> for the minimum practical change to the current situation, to make it
> easier for contest sponsors to sign on. I also want to cause minimum
> disruption to the rosters of the contest clubs, individual
> hurt feelings
> and resistance to change.
>
> Incidentally, for those who are wondering, what I propose
> would NOT "fix"
> PVRC's circle problem or have changed the outcome of the 2006
> Sweepstakes
> club competition.
>
> I have received a strong expression of interest in sponsoring
> the circle
> standardization proposal from one major US club, but
> obviously it would be
> most likely to succeed if multiple major clubs got behind it.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
>
> At 10:11 PM 5/28/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> >K8DD writes:
> >
> > > In ARRL contests there is a second option to the circle.
> > > According to http://www.arrl.org/contests/cc.html
> Unlimited and Medium
> > > clubs have the choice of the circle or section. " All
> stations and
> > > all operators must reside within the club territory,
> which is either
> > > defined by a 175-mile (282-kilometer) radius from a
> designated area or
> > > one ARRL section." Not real hard to understand what that means.
> >
> >That still penalizes clubs where a given state is chopped into
> >multiple sections (e.g., the Florida Contest Group).
> >
> >The "smart" way to resolve the geographical limits for a club is
> >to use a given number of grid squares (6 character). 14 or 15
> >squares would be about the same geographical area as the current
> >175 mile (ARRL) limit and would be significantly easier to
> administer.
> >
> >73,
> >
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of hank k8dd
> > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:58 PM
> > > To: kr2q@optonline.net
> > > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/28/07, kr2q@optonline.net <kr2q@optonline.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Seems to me that the concept of circle is wrong. What
> > > about places along the coast?
> > > > What about places along deserts? What about etc? Doesn't
> > > a circle hurt them?
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > > In ARRL contests there is a second option to the circle.
> > > According to http://www.arrl.org/contests/cc.html
> Unlimited and Medium
> > > clubs have the choice of the circle or section. " All
> stations and
> > > all operators must reside within the club territory,
> which is either
> > > defined by a 175-mile (282-kilometer) radius from a
> designated area or
> > > one ARRL section." Not real hard to understand what that means.
> > >
> > > CQ WPX says "Participation is limited to members
> operating within a
> > > local geographical area (exception: DXpeditions
> especially organized
> > > for operation in the contest and manned by members)." No
> definition
> > > of "local geographical area", but one could say it is somewhere
> > > between a 300 kilometer circle and a call area. Or two.
> Or three in
> > > some cases! Not real easy to understand what that means.
> > >
> > > CQ WW says "Participation is limited to members operating within a
> > > local geographic area defined as within a 275 km radius
> from center of
> > > club area (except for DXpeditions specially organized for
> operation in
> > > the contest; club contributions of DXpedition scores are
> percentaged
> > > to the number of club members on the DXpedition). Not
> real hard to
> > > understand what that means .....
> > >
> > > Change it and make them all the same. "Participation is
> limited to
> > > members operating and residing within the club territory
> (except for
> > > DXpeditions sponsored by the club for the operating
> event. Scores to
> > > be percentaged to the number of club members operating on the
> > > DXpedition).
> > >
> > > Then there is the exchange .....
> > > Add a Check .... you know .... THE CHECK ....
> > > the year you were first licensed,
> > > the year you think you were first licensed,
> > > the year you wanted to get licensed,
> > > the year you didn't get licensed,
> > > the year you were born,
> > > the year you were married, deflowered, or attended your first
> > > Hamvention(r),
> > > Or some two digit number that you got by throwing darts at
> > > the dart board.
> > > Etc, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > And start it all off with a sync code (5nn or enn) to let
> you sync to
> > > the speed in your brain to know that the rest of the exchange is
> > > coming at that speed. Or slower. Or faster.
> > >
> > > 73 Hank/Duck K8DD
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their
> > > level then beat you with experience.' -anon
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