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Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:25:44 -0600
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Let's consider facts, not speculation, for a moment, shall we?

Randy has made NO EFFORT to hide his use of streaming. He's advertised it
here every time he's done it.

This reflector is watched by the contest advisory committee members.

We have an employee of the sponsor of the coming contest being as sarcastic
about it as anyone. (And not just any employee, but the contesting columnist
himself!)

NOBODY has been DQ'd for streaming.

The link between streaming and solicitation is tenuous, at best. Connections
are often unreliable, you can't HEAR what his frequency readout says, you
don't know which band he's on. In the unlikely event streaming gets someone
to turn on their radio when they otherwise wouldn't -- THAT'S A GOOD THING!
We want people to use amateur radio, no? And since the guy who just turned
on his radio has no idea where to tune, he's likely going to work a bunch of
other folks before he finds Randy, and that's assuming he ever does!

K1TTT does live webcams during contests. Could you use those to find K1TTT?
Absolutely not! No offence Dave, but the picture quality is such that even
if the cameras were pointed in the right direction (they're not), you'd
never be able to read the frequency display.

It seems to me Randy does this because he thinks it's neat. Will it help his
score? I most seriously doubt it.

Time to let this one go.

73, kelly
ve4xt

----- Original Message -----
From: <k3bu@optonline.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW


> Very funny! Or not!?!
>
> I just marvel at the remnants of the logic left in some hams.
> Having web site is NOT the same as SOLICITING QSO by saying: "Hey I will
be on, have streaming audio (video), give me a call, you can hear yourself!"
> That to me is using Internet, during the contest for soliciting QSOs (by
non-amateur means).
> You jokers can poke fun and paint your portraits all you want.
>
> Again, why did CQ WW CC asked here if the live scoreboard might conflict
with the "solicitation" rule, while this obvious solicitation by streaming
is "OK"?
> I will not be checking any "streamers", I will be too busy working contest
without crutches. But little pistols and "point givers" will sure check and
work streamers, while the rest of us will be CQing with no takers, they are
all watching "stars".
>
> I rest my case, CQ WW CC should clarify this situation and make it know,
so we ALL can stream ourselves.
>
> Yuri, K3BU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: K1AR@aol.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:23 am
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW
> To: w9wi@earthlink.net, cq-contest@contesting.com
>
> > <BR>> In a message dated 11/22/2006 8:40:00 A.M. Eastern Standard
> > Time,
> > w9wi@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > I guess I'm DQ'd from CQ WW this weekend -- a handful of
> > contesters have
> > found my website (non-amateur means) useful and might be more
> > likely to
> > work me than someone else who doesn't have a website...
> >
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > I have to come clean and confess that I know hams that intend to
> > operate in
> > the CQ WW this weekend. They've already told me about their
> > plans on the
> > telephone. Some of them have useful Web sites as well. A few
> > even have memory
> > keyers. Also, I've just learned this morning that one guy is
> > using a rotator,
> > but I've been assured that he's turning his antennas via amateur
> > means. I won't
> > disclose his callsign out of respect for confidentiality.
> >
> > I guess I'm getting DQ'd as well. Crap!
> >
> > 73 John, K1AR
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