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Subject: | Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting Computer--RFI issue |
From: | W0UN -- John Brosnahan <shr@swtexas.net> |
Date: | Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:57:28 -0600 |
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RE: Computer RFIHere is my old post and a reply from K6NA taken from the archives from 1998. Guess it is still applicable. 73--John W0UN ----------------------------------------------------- COMPUTER NOISE SOLUTION W0UN writes: Many of the new computers are omitting the RFI filter in the power supply that keeps the garbage from the switching mode supply from entering the AC mains. I have had excellent results (as have others who have taken my suggestion) in virtually eliminating the interference by replacing the AC connector on the back of the power supply with an integrated AC connector and RFI filter such as the Corcom 6EF1. The mounting hole for the connector must be widened a few millimeters on each side--something that can be done with a file in a minute or two. Just make sure there is enough room behind the connector position to clear the somewhat longer RFI filter. In one case that I made the modification I needed to bend a capacitor out of the way. Some power supplies have a place on the circuit board for a filter but have eliminated the components to save some money, and have just placed jumpers in the positions where the components had been. It would be possible to make a new filter and add it to the existing location--or to add it between the circuit board and the existing connector----but the commercial Corcom filter is probably the best and easiest way to go. The commercial filter has 1.0 mH coils (bifilar rated at 6 amps in series with each side of the line. On the computer side each side of the AC line has 2800 pF to circuit ground. On the AC mains side of the filter there is a 9000 pF capacitor across the mains (not to ground). Just make sure that you use capacitors that are rated to be installed across the AC mains! The filters are available from most US electronics suppliers for around $10 or so, but can often be found in the surplus market for $1-$2. I used the 3 amp version (3EF1, a little marginal) because I found some for $1. There is also a 3EF2 and a 6EF2 that will work and may be even easier to fit inside the power supply--their terminals come out the top/bottom rather than the end. If adding and AC mains RFI filter doesn't completely cure the problem then additional RFI suppression will be needed--but in my cases (3 computers) it eliminated the problem. gl es 73 John W0UN --------------------------- K6NA adds: All the other suggestions offered may be helpful here and there, but until you follow John's advice above, you are wasting your time chasing this kind of noise around the shack. He offered this advice on here about a year ago. I've built three computers since then, and EVERY TIME his fix was the answer! In San Diego we can buy mini-cases for as cheap as $25.00. But the switching PS is a noisy dog, and there is no filtering. Replacement of the a.c. input connector with a filtered type is an easy one-hour job, start to finish and it will probably get rid of 95% of your problem. For the remainder you might want to play with snap-on chokes, but after I ran coax braid from the computer chassis to the station ground buss to get everything at the same potential, I needed only one or two chokes to finish the job. I also noted reduction of video noise when I powered the monitor from the accessory a.c. socket on the back of the computer p.s., instead of just a random socket in the station. When inside the p.s. box I also had added some ferrites to the leads going to this output socket, as a precaution. I recommend powering your monitor the same way. It would be a HUGE JOB to successfully shield a monitor completely, for example, and may not be necessary at all if you take care of business in the computer p.s. first. Thank you John! 73, Glenn K6NA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 --------------------------------------------------------------- The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland! THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS! http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/ --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Contest@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest |
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