A recent thread ran here on our ageing contest population.
This topic spurred significant discussion.
The exchange for the All Asian sprint this past weekend
was signal report and operators age. I found that most op's
age's were in the 30 to 50 year range.
I am very interested in the youngest op you Logged
and the youngest you heard but could'nt log because the
station was not an eligible Asian station. In my case the youngest
Logged was the op at JA1YXP, 20 and the youngest heard was
N2KOF, 15. Can anyone beat that ? I need a contest HI HI.
73/Jerry/WN9JAT p.s. Someone should look up N2KOF and nuture
that contest flame.
>From bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) Mon Jun 17 12:30:34
>1996
From: bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny,
WR3E)
Subject: FW: Callsigns
References: <105934@mail.wdn.com>
Message-ID: <31C541DA.5A8D@mail.wdn.com>
ki4hn@nando.net wrote:
> An obvious cheat is the vanity call KZ5WH issued to WB4FXQ. I'm
> not aware of the FCC ever previously issuing any KZ5 2X2 calls, so how could
> KZ5WH be a previously held call or call of a relative?
>
> 73,
> Jim Stevens KI4HN
Whoops I guess I am showing my age also! My 2nd country ever worked was
KZ5EK, Dr. Ernest, When I was a novice. Later worked KZ5NW, RH and RXN
(novice). Also worked KZ5OJ (never got a qsl). Then good old Jimmy Carter
gave that country away! de Bernie
>From bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) Mon Jun 17 12:37:03
>1996
From: bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny,
WR3E)
Subject: IARU...W1AW etc.
References: <106094@mail.wdn.com>
Message-ID: <31C5435F.2750@mail.wdn.com>
S56A@S55TCP.ampr.org wrote:
>
> Hi USA, You stand a great chance in IARU HQ as the best 30 S5 op's will be in
> California for WRTC parties :-) 73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU.Hum.......I thought
> the HA station came in first last year and the S5's came
in 6th.
>From floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) Mon Jun 17 12:04:38 1996
From: floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Subject: N8BJQ Email Address
Message-ID: <199606171325.JAA05835@mail-hub.interpath.net>
Could someone please send me the email address of the N8BJQ. I have
heard that he can help with WPX Certificates. Please reply to me direct
and not on the reflector.
73's Jim
**********************************************************
* Jimmy R. Floyd (Jim) Thomasville, NC *
* *
* Amateur Call: >> WA4ZXA << *
* Packet Node: >> N4ZC << *
* Internet Address: **NEW** >> floydjr@interpath.com << *
**********************************************************
>From jbmitch@vt.edu (John Mitchell) Mon Jun 17 14:16:35 1996
From: jbmitch@vt.edu (John Mitchell) (John Mitchell)
Subject: KV4AA contest
Message-ID: <199606171328.JAA02979@sable.cc.vt.edu>
At 09:08 PM 6/16/96 -0700, H. L. Serra wrote:
>I think you're correct, Jim. I recall same, and have a QSL from June '61
>showing 579 CW rpt in Dick's red ink on black print card.
>DX trivia question: Does anyone remember Dick's pre-KV4AA mainland call?
>73, Larry N6AZE
>
I have Dick's card from a QSO in 1978, which lists the following information
(for those who may have interest):
EX K4AAN 1927-1941, DXCC (Retired at 335 in 1963), WAZ, FOC #2246, QCWA
#780, DX Editor CQ Magazine 1951-1959, Pres. YASME Foundx 1859-65, #4 - CQ
Magazine's DX Hall of Fame, 3/1/69.
BTW, I got a 599 on 20 Meters. Dick signed the card...
John WD4MUR
>From PITMANZ@westel900.hu (PITMANZ.W9) Mon Jun 17 14:36:49 1996
From: PITMANZ@westel900.hu (PITMANZ.W9) (PITMANZ.W9)
Subject: WB1ASL's email address needed
Message-ID: <9606171340.AA04707@iroda1.westel900.hu>
Hi friends,
Is there anybody out there knowing the e-mail address of WB1ASL?
73s de Zoli HA1AG
>From k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) Mon Jun 17 14:42:52 1996
From: k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Subject: FW: Callsigns
Message-ID: <199606171342.IAA15401@zoom.bga.com>
>ki4hn@nando.net wrote:
>> An obvious cheat is the vanity call KZ5WH issued to WB4FXQ. I'm
>> not aware of the FCC ever previously issuing any KZ5 2X2 calls, so how could
>> KZ5WH be a previously held call or call of a relative?
>>
>> 73,
>> Jim Stevens KI4HN
I have been watching this thread and I think Jim may have been technically
correct in his post.
It is (was) my understanding that the FCC did not issue the KZ5 callsigns.
They were ALL issued by the military supervising the Canal Zone.
But maybe that doesn't make any difference to the FCC since they don't seem
to care about having, or enforcing, fair rules about who gets what call (or
calls).
73, Richard
K5NA@BGA.COM
>From bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) Mon Jun 17 21:40:03
>1996
From: bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny,
WR3E)
Subject: KV4AA contest from W3LPL
References: <107269@mail.wdn.com>
Message-ID: <31C5C2A3.6F1F@mail.wdn.com>
I found my KV4AA QSL card from when I was a Novice. Date was
Sept. 30 1980. He gave me a 599. Got the QSL too! de Bernie
>From wilder@abs.net (K3DI) Mon Jun 17 14:49:31 1996
From: wilder@abs.net (K3DI) (K3DI)
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960617091900.14923B-100000@u1.abs.net>
I will be on a GrayLine tour and then walking around Anchorage on
Saturday, the 22nd, during the first several hours of Field Day. Our
tour starts at 8:30am (FD starts 10:00am) and our bus to Seward leaves
sometime after 12 noon (last bus at 2:00pm).
I hope to make few QSOs using a 144.1-148 and 430-450 MHz HT. When I
get to a place that I can operate, I will jump between and call CQ on
146.520, 147.570, and 446.000 MHz. If we QSO, please feel free to ask me
to jump bands for a second quick QSO.
I don't know our schedule times in Seward, but I will CQ on the above
frequencies. Our ship sails at 9:30pm on Saturday, the 22nd.
73, Dick Wilder, K3DI wilder@abs.net
>From k7ss@wolfenet.com (Danny Eskenazi) Mon Jun 17 15:19:04 1996
From: k7ss@wolfenet.com (Danny Eskenazi) (Danny Eskenazi)
Subject: KV4AA - K4AAN card
Message-ID: <199606171419.HAA13351@wolfe.net>
Found the K4AAN card, postmarked 1935 from St. Thomas
"W7BB this confirms our recent radio contact 32-33 etc
K4AAN
Your card received
Thanks
(initialed RCS)
Dick Spencely"
and the other CONTESTING gem:
" Hawaii K6CGK
to W7DL QRJ UR 59 SIGS QSA 5 R 6 on 7mc at 6:30PM Mar 14 1934
XMTR 210PP RCVR 112A 201A 112A
K. Nose"
Two contest legends KV4AA and KH6IJ
>From wilder@abs.net (K3DI) Mon Jun 17 15:48:12 1996
From: wilder@abs.net (K3DI) (K3DI)
Subject: KV4AA contest
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960617104517.15837D-100000@u1.abs.net>
Missed details of contest during a period when I hat stopped email, but
here is my KV4AA QSL info:
27 March 54 got 579 on 3525.3 kHz (my call was W2ZCZ)**
signed in red ink "Dick"
11 Jan 76 got 599 on 20. His call was AJ3AA
signed in ink "R.cS."
I don't know his USA call; I believe K4AAN ('27-'41) was his VI call
before the FCC made K calls available in the 48 states. For example,
K7 was changed to KL7 and K6 to KH6, to mention a couple that I seem
to recall.
**Impressed a friend with this QSO. He had never worked DX on 80 so we
got on my lowest crystal frequency at 2am (local) and I called CQDX. Dick
answered my first call and had an exchange with the friend. (I did not tell
the friend that I was more surprised than he was!)
73, Dick Wilder, K3DI
>From silst03@cai.com (Steve Silverwood) Mon Jun 17 15:46:07 1996
From: silst03@cai.com (Steve Silverwood) (Steve Silverwood)
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
Message-ID: <01BB5C21.0C275100@ussngp2b.cai.com>
We just finished up a wonderful tour with the Holland America line. =
Since you're using Gray Line, your ship is probably one of theirs. If =
you're on the Noordam, drop by the Wireless Room and say hello to Hugh, =
the radio operator for the ship. He's a very pleasant Irish gentleman =
and bent over backwards to be friendly and accomodating to my wife and =
I, both hams, when we dropped in to visit. There's a lot of high-tech =
goodies to ogle at in the radio room, so it'll be well worth taking the =
time for the trip. FYI. //Steve// (KB6OJS)
----------
From: wilder@abs.net (K3DI)
Sent: Monday, June 17, 1996 06:49
To: cq-contest@tgv.com
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
I will be on a GrayLine tour and then walking around Anchorage on
Saturday, the 22nd, during the first several hours of Field Day. Our
tour starts at 8:30am (FD starts 10:00am) and our bus to Seward leaves
sometime after 12 noon (last bus at 2:00pm).=20
I hope to make few QSOs using a 144.1-148 and 430-450 MHz HT. When I
get to a place that I can operate, I will jump between and call CQ on
146.520, 147.570, and 446.000 MHz. If we QSO, please feel free to ask =
me
to jump bands for a second quick QSO.
I don't know our schedule times in Seward, but I will CQ on the above=20
frequencies. Our ship sails at 9:30pm on Saturday, the 22nd.
73, Dick Wilder, K3DI wilder@abs.net
.
>From bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) Mon Jun 17 21:44:31
>1996
From: bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny,
WR3E)
Subject: [Fwd: Re: KV4AA contest]
Message-ID: <31C5C3AF.307E@mail.wdn.com>
Bernie McClenny, WR3E wrote:
>
> hlserra@pwa.acusd.edu wrote:
> >
> > I think you're correct, Jim. I recall same, and have a QSL from June '61
> > showing 579 CW rpt in Dick's red ink on black print card.
> > DX trivia question: Does anyone remember Dick's pre-KV4AA mainland call?
> > 73, Larry N6AZE
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Jun 1996 BK1ZX70SFL@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > correct me if i am wrong (moi?) but if I remember correctly (they say
> > > that's
> > > the second thing to go) wasn't the official KV4AA exchange:
> > >
> > > 579 Dick
> > >
> > > (not 599)
> > >
> > > I seem to remember it was always 5 - SEVEN - 9 from him. zxI don't
> > > remember it....but it was K4AAN. 1927-1941. I was born in 1964.
de Bernie
>From bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) Mon Jun 17 23:32:13
>1996
From: bernie.mcclenny@mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny,
WR3E)
Subject: FW: Callsigns
References: <105934@mail.wdn.com> <31C541DA.5A8D@mail.wdn.com>
Message-ID: <31C5DCED.48D3@mail.wdn.com>
Bernie McClenny, WR3E wrote:
>
> ki4hn@nando.net wrote:
> > An obvious cheat is the vanity call KZ5WH issued to WB4FXQ. I'm
> > not aware of the FCC ever previously issuing any KZ5 2X2 calls, so how could
> > KZ5WH be a previously held call or call of a relative?
> >
> > 73,
> > Jim Stevens KI4HN
> Whoops I guess I am showing my age also! My 2nd country ever worked was
KZ5EK, Dr. Ernest, When I was a novice. Later worked KZ5NW, RH and RXN
(novice). Also worked KZ5OJ (never got a qsl). Then good old Jimmy Carter
gave that country away! de Bernie
>From k7ss@wolfenet.com (Danny Eskenazi) Mon Jun 17 16:31:53 1996
From: k7ss@wolfenet.com (Danny Eskenazi) (Danny Eskenazi)
Subject: KV4AA - K4AAN card
Message-ID: <199606171531.IAA21964@wolfe.net>
>To: cq-contest@tgv.com
>From: Danny Eskenazi <k7ss@wolfenet.com>
>Subject: KV4AA - K4AAN card
>
>Found the K4AAN card, postmarked 1935 from St. Thomas
>
>"W7BB this confirms our recent radio contact 32-33 etc
>K4AAN
>Your card received
>Thanks
>(initialed RCS)
>Dick Spencely"
>
>
>and the other CONTESTING gem:
>
>" Hawaii K6CGK
>to W7DL QRJ UR 59 SIGS QSA 5 R 6 on 7mc at 6:30PM Mar 14 1934
>XMTR 210PP RCVR 112A 201A 112A
>K. Nose"
>
>Two contest legends KV4AA and KH6IJ
>
>From TREY@TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) Mon Jun 17 16:48:53 1996
From: TREY@TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
Message-ID: <835026533.240280.TREY@tgv.com>
> I will be on a GrayLine tour and then walking around Anchorage on
Is this a grayline tour of 80 meters?
--Trey
>From slazar19@sgi.net (Spike Lazar) Mon Jun 17 17:02:46 1996
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spike Lazar) (Spike Lazar)
Subject: KV4AA contest
Message-ID: <199606171602.MAA24997@orion.bv.sgi.net>
At 04:38 PM 6/16/96 -0400, you wrote:
>correct me if i am wrong (moi?) but if I remember correctly (they say that's
>the second thing to go) wasn't the official KV4AA exchange:
>
>579 Dick
>
>(not 599)
>
>I seem to remember it was always 5 - SEVEN - 9 from him. zx
----------------------------end ZX remarks-------------------
I bet most novices worked KV4BK for their first Virgin Islands,
on 40 cw, and his Pan American Airways Card, btw did anyone ever
use Walter Ash, WRL or Light House Larry qsls for themselves!
Sincerely,
Bafoof
>From seay@alaska.net (Del Seay) Mon Jun 17 16:11:37 1996
From: seay@alaska.net (Del Seay) (Del Seay)
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
References: <835026533.240280.TREY@tgv.com>
Message-ID: <31C575A9.565C@alaska.net>
Trey Garlough wrote:
>
> > I will be on a GrayLine tour and then walking around Anchorage on
>
> Is this a grayline tour of 80 meters?
>
> --Trey
Here, it's either "Grayline" or Winter!
>From ac1o@gate.net (Walter Deemer) Mon Jun 17 17:10:44 1996
From: ac1o@gate.net (Walter Deemer) (Walter Deemer)
Subject: KV4AA and 579 reports
Message-ID: <199606171610.MAA83486@osceola.gate.net>
At 07:35 PM 6/16/96 -0400, Frank Donovan wrote:
>Prior to the popularity of memory keyers, honest reports were normally
>given during contests, DX QSOs and even DXpeditions! During the heat of
>battle, 579 sometimes became the default report, certainly not 5NN.
"Give a 579 report to everyone except W4KFC and W9IOP. Give them a 599."
W3BES (now W3GM), explaining the finer points of SS operating at a Frankford
Radio Club meeting in the late 1950's.
-- Walt, AC1O
>From Tom=Georgens%MKC=HOP35C%SM@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com (tom georgens) Mon Jun
>17 17:14:17 1996
From: Tom=Georgens%MKC=HOP35C%SM@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com (tom georgens) (tom
georgens)
Subject: ...no subject...
Message-ID: <vines.rTJ8+NFMllA@fishbowl02.emc.com>
I have received a number of responses both public and
private to my comments about the time limits in the WPX
contest. Most of them put me in the category of being a
48 hour bigot or not being happy unless the rules made it
impossible for anyone other than a W1 to win. I think
that both of these comments missed my point.
The rules of the contests need to be structured in such a
way to foster competition and activity. Basically they
need to be fun for people at all levels of intensity. I
am in favor of any rule changes that meet these criteria.
I am not a 48 hour fanatic. I do the 48 hours but I can
understand why people find that extreme and would want a
shorter contest. Four 48 hour contests per year is
probably enough. Perhaps a 24 hour format or a "limited
time" category may make some sense. If this raises the
interest level, I am in favor of it.
My comment about off time was not to criticize anybody's
commitment to contesting. My point was that the contest,
with either the 30 or 36 hour limit, still requires an
entire weekend dedicated to this purpose. In my case
this means time away from my family, particularly on a
holiday weekend. If I am going to make this commitment
to a contest, I want to spend it operating with no limits
and not pacing, watching TV, or any other less satisfying
activity.
Trey presented an argument from a competitor's view that
the 30 hour limit more equally balanced the number of
hours in which intercontinental QSO's could be made.
Unfortunately, the net effect of this propagation
equalization is the operators in more "propagationally
advantaged" are forced off the radio during potentially
very productive hours. I still contend that contests
are for operating and forcing people off the radio when
there are contacts to be made should not be part of the
rules.
Trey's argument leads to a conclusion that, at 30 hours
of operating time, he can be competitive with the east
coast. However, the same argument applied at a QTH like
VK5GN would probably find that an even smaller number
hours would be appropriate. My point is that it is not
that easy to equalize the competition without lowering the
interest level for other competitors.
Trey's analysis is well considered but it is rooted in
the rules as they exist today. Unlike VK5GN, W6's can
work stations for more than 30 hours in the weekend, it
is just that most of them carry no point value. Trey,
would your opinion change if the USA-to-USA QSO's carried
sufficient point value to make running stateside a
significant score enhancing strategy? I would be much
more in favor of manipulating the scoring scheme to
broaden the competition than reducing the number of
operating hours to balance propagation.
Overall, the contest needs to appeal the serious,
semi-serious, and casual operator. The CW WPX has always
had a serious lack of US participation in contrast to
the excellent European interest. I applaud the sponsors
for trying the Rookie and tribander classes to stimulate
activity. Personally, I am not wedded to any of the
existing rules and would be in favor of any changes to
enhance the participation in the contest.
73, Tom W2SC w2sc@emc.com or georgens@emc.com
>From k0wa@southwind.net (Lee Buller) Mon Jun 17 17:58:28 1996
From: k0wa@southwind.net (Lee Buller) (Lee Buller)
Subject: FD Antenna for 40m
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960617165828.0069ce18@southwind.net>
Guys and Gals....
I am planning to put up a phased 40 meter array on 40 meters this year for
FD. Went to the local junk yard and picked up some neat aluminum poles with
swagged ends to put up the two verticles. Anyone have any thoughts about
some do's and don'ts of phasing these together?
I am planning to phase them 66 feet apart with at T-connector in the middle.
I am planning on 8 radials under each of the 40 meter verticles.
Listen for W0BZN if we can get the thing built this week.
Lee Buller
k0wa@southwind.net
>From rlboyd@CapAccess.org (Rich L. Boyd) Mon Jun 17 19:34:37 1996
From: rlboyd@CapAccess.org (Rich L. Boyd) (Rich L. Boyd)
Subject: CQ Anchorage & Seward, Alaska
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.960617143412.4076O-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Del Seay wrote:
> Trey Garlough wrote:
> >
> > > I will be on a GrayLine tour and then walking around Anchorage on
> >
> > Is this a grayline tour of 80 meters?
> >
> > --Trey
>
> Here, it's either "Grayline" or Winter!
>
Depends how far you walk. If you walk 80 meters it's an 80-meter
grayline tour.
Rich Boyd KE3Q
>From jfeustle@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.) Mon Jun 17 19:57:41
>1996
From: jfeustle@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.) (Joseph A. Feustle,
Jr.)
Subject: Callsigns: an anticipated FCC reply
Message-ID: <01I60PG8917O00Q54I@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
Do any of these sound familiar?
1. I'll love you just as much tomorrow morning.
2. I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.
3. This will be fair and square.
I've instructed the legal department of the Big Bolt Contest Club to
initiate proceedings to demand I be issued N8 as my call in the amateur
service. "Service," did I say? In rural northwest Ohio that word has a
different but highly applicable meaning.
In the meantime, while we're all watching SNAFU progresses to TARFU, and
eventually achieve FUBAR, don't forget the most important government
acronym: BOHICA. The FCC will most likely blame us, the amateur community,
and tell us that this is exactly what we asked for.
73,
N8AAT (soon to be N8)
>From km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) Mon Jun 17 21:33:42 1996
From: km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) (Bill Fisher KM9P)
Subject: W2SC WPX Comments
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960617162637.7188A@paris.akorn.net>
Nice message Tom. I'm a pro-30 hour format guy, but I believe
changing the point distribution would also accomplish the same thing and
probably more. For all the reasons you mentioned.
I hope N8BJQ will consider all of these changes. I don't think changing
the USA-USA contacts to 1 point would matter to someone not in the USA.
It would definately enhance appeal for the guys out west. The only
negative would be the records. It would obviously change them. But I'm
kind of a "What have you done for me lately" kind of person anyway.
73
Bill, KM9P
>From n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith) Mon Jun 17 22:01:45 1996
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith) (Pete Smith)
Subject: KV4AA contest
Message-ID: <199606172101.OAA25708@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com>
At 07:35 PM 6/16/96 -0400, W3LPL wrote:
>Some of the seasoned veterans on the reflector may even recall the name of
>the CONTEST magazine published by Wayne Green in the early 1960s...
>(I'm sure K1VR remembers!)
>
Yes, but can you identify Hashafisti Scratchi?
73, Pete Smith N4ZR
n4zr@contesting.com
>From ken.silverman@CCMAIL.AirTouch.COM (Ken Silverman) Mon Jun 17 20:15:32
>1996
From: ken.silverman@CCMAIL.AirTouch.COM (Ken Silverman) (Ken Silverman)
Subject: 80m Rotatable Dipoles
Message-ID: <9605178350.AA835046967@CCMAIL.AIRTOUCH.COM>
Hello CQ Contest!
I would like to ask some questions to those of you who have installed
80m rotatable dipoles:
1) Did you notice any improved performance vs. your old antenna - and
what was the old antenna?
2) Based on question 1, did you feel the money was worth it?
3) What considerations did you make when mounting the antenna?
4) How close to other antennas were you able to stack the 80m
rotatable dipole?
5) What manufacturer is your antenna, and would you recommend them?
6) Has maintenance been a problem?
7) After all of the above, is price/performance ratio good enough to
justify the antenna (in your mind)?
As a little background... a friend overseas has been looking to
improve his 80m antenna, and I didn't know if he will gain anything by
going to a rotatable dipole. The current antenna is an inverted-V at
the top of the tower, but there are guys every 2m along the tower
(lightweight tower) which I suspect are degrading the performance of
the 80m inverted-V.
Many thanks for your assistance!!
73, Kenny WM2C
>From n3bb@bga.com (James K. George Jr.) Mon Jun 17 22:35:19 1996
From: n3bb@bga.com (James K. George Jr.) (James K. George Jr.)
Subject: WPX single op
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9606171648.C18922-0100000@jake.bga.com>
Very well stated! Agree 100%.
Jim, N3BB
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