Had another blast with 500 w to the Texas Bugcatcher from Live Oak Rec.
area in Sutter county. As usual, we found another boat launch/ camping
site in orchard and rice country near the Feather River.
Nice flat, wet ground for our 13 foot contest antenna. No Phillystran
required.
771 x 53 = 103k. About 58% cw.
Ops - N6UXB (@8.99 mo very pregnant), KO6OU, KN6OX, KJ6TC, NB6G & NV6O
Rig: 765 + Hercules amp powered by Astron 60A supply into two HUGE Comm
batteries. Worked great. The Astron only had to supply 30A during
voice peaks. Boy, I bet those batteries would wiggle a lot of frog's
legs!
We did not have any significant problems except for the usual fights as
to whose turn it was to play radio.
Strange weather - 90deg. during the day, 30 at night. Froze my little
tozies (I know I spelled it wrong, quack)
Saturday evening, there was a christening celebration in the campsites
about 100 feet from our location. Fantastic Mexican Music with sound
system (live band!) for 6 hours. If you thought you had
QRMexico........ayyyyyyyyyyyiiii.
No mosquitos this time of year - well maybe a couple. Mostly large
lethargic flies (flys?).
We did manage to work Carl, AH8I, who was at KS6DV's in Pango Pango.
This is the first year he did not do cqp mobiling with us. Hard to
commute from KH8, I guess.
15 open slightly Saturday, better Sunday. No 10.
We used K6NP since our group was mostly telephone people. K6NP is the
call for the J. I. Sabin Telephone Pioneer Radio Club.
Thanks for all the Q's.
Eric NV6O
edwoods@pacbell.com
>From David O. Hachadorian" <74752.115@compuserve.com Mon Oct 9 18:53:14 1995
From: David O. Hachadorian" <74752.115@compuserve.com (David O. Hachadorian)
Subject: Trap vertical over seawater
Message-ID: <951009175313_74752.115_EHL235-1@CompuServe.COM>
We spent a few hours in the CQP on Saturday, using an old
Hy-gain 18AVQ trap vertical installed about 10 feet offshore in
Imperial County's Salton Sea. The vertical had a seawater
reflecting plane in all directions, except for the shore of the
peninsula, which covered about 135 to 225 degrees. We had two
bare wire radials about 30 feet long, buried in the water.
Theoretically, a quarter wave vertical over seawater ground
should be about 3dB down from an optimum height dipole in its
broadside direction. Of course the vertical has the advantage of
being omnidirectional in azimuth.
In practice, this is just about the performance we felt we
achieved. With 80 watts, we were able to hold a frequency on 20
SSB fairly well, even though there were hundreds of California
stations on the band, most of them totally inaudible to us. On 40,
we seemed to have an extraordinary signal for 80 watts. We wanted
to be out of there by dark, so we didn't try 80. I bet it would
have worked great.
It was fun using an omnidirectional antenna. Within a few minutes,
we were called by Florida, Maine, VY1, JA, and KH6, all with
great signals. There was one negative factor, S4 line noise on
all bands, even though the nearest power line was about two miles
away. The great conductivity of the seawater must have been
bringing the noise from far away.
Anyway, it was a lot of fun, and something for CONTESTers to
keep in mind for a simple DXpedition antenna if there is salt
water nearby.
Dave, K6LL
74752@compuserve.com
>From Dan Robbins <kl7y@alaska.net> Mon Oct 9 20:19:12 1995
From: Dan Robbins <kl7y@alaska.net> (Dan Robbins)
Subject: cable clamps
Message-ID: <9510091919.AA16301@alaska.net>
Many moons ago when I was WA9 in Illinois I had a 60 tower which survived a
tornado. As tower installations go this was definitely low budget - small,
cheap guy wires, hardware store turnbuckles of indeterminate alloy,
insulators made from sliding the guy wires through short chunks of garden
hose, etc. This tower was house-bracketed at about 24 ft and guyed 4 times
near the top at 90 degree spacing. (The normal 120 degree spacing with 3
guys would have put a guy base right in the middle of the yard, 90 degrees
put the guy bases near the property lines.) As twisters go, this wasn't a
big one, but it did put a storage shed atop a 30' telephone pole, suck a
giant oak tree out of the ground and move it from a lawn into a driveway,
destroy every window in a nearby church, and separate our back porch from
the rest of the house. The twister
ripped all of the wires off my quad, pulled the house bracket with fascia
boards and backing off of the house and broke one guy wire. The turnbuckle
on that guy wire had been pulled so hard it fused, I was never able to turn
it again. But the two chintzy cable clamps per wire end held!
There are many ways to secure guy wires: cable clamps, Nico-press clips,
strand vises (Chinese fingers!), dead-end guy grips, etc. They will all
work if properly installed. At one time I had talked to a Rohn rep about
guy hardware. In regards to cable clamps, he said, for the size cable hams
use, get the clamps with the V notch, not the U. Tighten the clamps up and
then come back the next day or so and retighten them before installation.
Put the dead end under the u-bolt, not in the body. And, he also said, Rohn
does not recommend wire rope, use galvanized EHS steel guy wire or one of
the non-conductive brands. I add that I worked on Amchitka Island for
several years, a place where the AVERAGE wind speed was 29 MPH, and all the
towers there held up just fine despite some having cable clamps on their guy
wires. Sadly, the wind indicators seemed to blow away or self-destruct when
the winds exceeded 100mph, but then they weren't guyed! In short, do it
right and it will last.
>From mihry@ns1.koyote.com (michael ihry) Mon Oct 9 20:25:08 1995
From: mihry@ns1.koyote.com (michael ihry) (michael ihry)
Subject: first contest
Message-ID: <199510091925.OAA04623@ns1.koyote.com>
cqp was fun. did not get 80 m or 160 m antennaes on tower in time. just
barely got the tri-bander up in time. thanks to all who qso'd with AC5CT.
thanks to AL7CQ for all the tower work/info. final score was 109 q's
but software not right as no credit for mult's. see ya'll next contest
de AC5CT
>From Chad Kurszewski" <kurscj@OAMPC12.csg.mot.com Mon Oct 9 20:30:01 1995
From: Chad Kurszewski" <kurscj@OAMPC12.csg.mot.com (Chad Kurszewski)
Subject: Beam Interaction - FYI
Message-ID: <9510091430.ZM11255@WE9V>
I really appreciate all the replies so far. Keep them coming!
One thing to remember. ALL of KS9K's towers rotate. To put the 2el
on a different tower presents a problem of NOT knowing which direction
the tower is, let alone the side-mount. Plus, the shack layout is very
large (similar to a Multi-Multi) so sneaking a peak at a different tower
rotator isn't really possible.
If we could have put up the 2el on one of the other 3 rotating towers,
we would have. But we kinda figured it was important to know which
direction the beam is at :-).
Maybe for this year, we will keep the 2el at either +90 or -90 to
minimize interaction to both the stack and the single 2el.
In the meanwhile, maybe I will divise a contraption that steals the
direction indication from a different tower and sums it with the
direction of the side-mount rotator/antenna and gives a third, true
indication of the 2el. I already have a simple circuit block diagram.
Just need to iron out the details and make one.
--
Chad Kurszewski, WE9V e-mail: Chad_Kurszewski@csg.mot.com
Sultans of Shwing Loud is Cool....yeah, heh, heh, heh, LOUD IS COOL!!!
The Official Sultans Web Site: http://www.infoanalytic.com/ka9fox/sos
>From Marijan Miletic <s56a@ljutcp.hamradio.si> Mon Oct 9 20:25:42 1995
From: Marijan Miletic <s56a@ljutcp.hamradio.si> (Marijan Miletic)
Subject: EL, LE, gramma...
Message-ID: <89458@ljutcp.hamradio.si>
Hi Contesters,
Our PR Internet node was disconnected from cq-contest for a while and I missed
you all! On the W2UP humorous side of MODEM, EL MODEM, LE MODEM, I wonder
what is THE (or A) proper English term? It makes life so difficult for Slav's!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU QRT for a week in Z3 & YU.
>From Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com Mon Oct 9 22:58:51 1995
From: Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com (Fred Hopengarten)
Subject: Do You Have 1983 NCJ's?
Message-ID: <30799b1c.k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com>
Topic: Do You Have 1983 NCJ's?
I wrote an article titled: "PHILLYSTRAN - A Non-metallic
Guy" which appeared in NCJ on pp. 16-18, but I'm not sure
which issue. I think it was either Jan-Feb 1983, or Nov-Dec
1982. I cut it out and failed to note the issue.
If you have those old issues, would you mind checking and
telling me? If you have the K3LR complete collection (sold
at Dayton), could you look it up?
Thanks.
--
Fred Hopengarten K1VR
Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
home + office telephone: 617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
internet: k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com
"Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
than small ones, low."
>From broz@csn.net (John Brosnahan) Mon Oct 9 20:58:55 1995
From: broz@csn.net (John Brosnahan) (John Brosnahan)
Subject: CAUTION on Guy Grips!!!!! (and a note on Nicopress fittings)
Message-ID: <199510091958.NAA11171@lynx.csn.net>
>I bought 100 grips at the place that sells them to small utility companies
>for about $1 each (much cheaper than Texas Towers), and the cable seemed
>to be free (it isn't hard to find as people don't like to use it).
Tree--
Just a word of caution about Preformed Line Products cable terminations.
There are a number of different products for different applications and they
should be thought of more as precision tools rather than a hunk of steel.
Using the wrong product can range anywhere from "no problem" to very dangerous.
The "Guy Grips" used by utility companies are a different product than the
"Big Grips" used for tower and antenna guying. Actually the utilities will
probably use both types depending on the application, and may have a few
other types as well. The "Big Grips" are the correct product and are more
expensive than the "Guy Grips". For example, the Big Grip used on 3/16 EHS
1x7 guy strand is longer and has one more strand than the Guy Grip that can
be used on the same product. It is safer and more "heavy duty".
There are different products for Galvanized Steel (which includes EHS, HS,
Siemens Martin, and Utilities grade guy strand), Alumoweld, Aluminized,
Copperweld, Stainless Steel. and Fiberglass guying and wiring products. Not
to mention (but I will anyway) different products for 3 and 7 strand cable
and of course you have to use the proper product for the lay of the guy
wire. Both left hand and right hand lay are available, and the grip lay
should match the guy wire lay.
One common grip that the utilities use is for the aluminum 1x7 wire that is
used as a "drop" from the utility pole to the house. This wire has a single
steel strand for the core and the remaining strands are aluminum for their
conductivity. You really don't want to use one of these grips on your
tower. It will probably hold but may be the weak link and is not specified
for tower applications or use on galvanized steel.
BTW Grips are specified only for use for a maximum of three installations
(for retensioning) and then only if they occur within three months because
of the possibility of deterioration of the coating on the inner surface that
inhances the grip. (This coating is very hard on gloves and after extensive
testing of all of the various kinds of leather gloves that I could find I
have determined that pigskin work gloves are 3 or 4 times more wear
resistant than the next nearest leather material.)
I wouldn't use a grip if it didn't have its label anymore (BTW they are
color coded as well--but the codes overlap--since there are a lot more grip
types than colors) and if I hadn't confirmed it to be the right tool for
the job.
If your life or property depends on a safe tower installation, I would
contact Preformed Line Products at PO Box 91129, Cleveland, OH 44101.
Phone 216-461-5200.
**************
Nicopress fittings are available from many other companies (such as Indusco
and Newco) in both copper and aluminum. (The little aluminum ovals that are
crimped onto the cable on winches.) These were designed for use on aircraft
cable and when I wrote Nicopress about their use on 1x7 EHS guy strand
(sometime in the 1970s--been doing this a long time) they said they had no
information on their rating for 1x7 EHS but would test them. I have been
unable to find the test results that they sent me (almost 20 years ago and
my filing system isn't that good) but my recollection is that in most cases
2 of the fittings were stronger than the cable itself, but that in at least
one test the 2-fitting setup failed before the guy strand. Their conclusion
was that 3 were required on 1x7 to guarantee that the fittings were stronger
than the cable. Of course use of the proper tool is also required--I have
heard of people "setting" them with a hammer--shudder. The tool for the
fittings for 1/4 cable gets pretty expensive, especially if you are only
going to do a few. (Think I paid quite a bit over a hundred bucks in the
70s for mine.) And you need to do the proper number of crimps for the
fitting you are using, of course.
Hope this info is of some use--I am not an expert, just an informed user, so
don't expect me to answer specific questions. If you want to do things
right get the technical information from the appropriate companies and get
their recommendations, you are paying for their lawyers anyway.
73 John W0UN
John Brosnahan W0UN
La Salle Research Corp 24115 WCR 40 La Salle, CO 80645 USA
voice 970-284-6602 fax 970-284-0979 email broz@csn.net
>From George Daughters" <G.DAUGHT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 9 20:03:28
>1995
From: George Daughters" <G.DAUGHT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (George Daughters)
Subject: ab6yl cqp fun
In case anyone even remotely cares, I hereby post:::
California QSO Party Results: AB6YL, Single operator
Santa Clara County
MODE QSO's Points Mults
CW 114 342
SSB 436 872
Totals 550 1214 54 = 65,556
Radio: IC-738; IC-2KL
Computer: 486 running CT 9.22
Antennae: 10/15/20 .... Force-12 C3
40/80 .... HF2-V
Highlights:
1. First ever try at this contest. Loads of fun!
2. Able to sustain a run for a significant amount of time on 20M,
both CW and SSB, a new experience!
3. Working WD0T SoDak on 20M SSB and getting him to try 10M to
fill in 5BWAS.
Lowlights:
1. Not hearing WD0T on 10M.
2. Having a Sacto. county station respond to my CQ on 40M
and tell me "Turn on your receiver! There are several
stations calling you" ... and hearing nothing, nada, zip, nil.
I've just got to get some gain/directivity on 40 and 80.
3. Forty CW was so poor I just went to bed. I expected it to be
the hot place Saturday night. I've just got to get some
gain/directivity on 40 and 80.
Thanks to anyone who worked me. Please give me a clear freq.
on CQWW ... HI!
73, ab6yl
g.daught@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM
>From k2mm@MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM) Mon Oct 9 21:17:07 1995
From: k2mm@MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM) (John Zapisek K2MM)
Subject: CQP E-Mail Logs
Message-ID: <9510092017.AA22456@greylock.local>
Hi, all. The CQP logs have begun to arrive by e-mail. Thanks!
Note that there were two e-mail addresses circulated for logs:
cqp-1995@tgv.com
nccc-cqp@maspar.com
Both work FB, but the first one (tgv.com) is preferred. Please accept
my apologies on behalf of the the ARRL contest desk, who accidentally
published an obsolete version of the rules.
All logs will be ACK'ed via return e-mail. If you've sent in a log but
haven't received an ACK, wait a while and try again. In cases of
persistent trouble, send me e-mail at the address below.
Thanks for helping make CQP the best state QSO Party bar none!
73. --John/K2MM k2mm@maspar.com
>From Jim Hollenback" <jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com Mon Oct 9 22:18:24 1995
From: Jim Hollenback" <jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback)
Subject: RIT on OMNI-VI
Message-ID: <9510091418.ZM2576@hpwsmjh1.cup.hp.com>
I got several message back on who was sending the letter to Ten Tec. Of course,
each one mentioned a different person. Given the result was a null set, I
called Ten Tec again.
Talked to Tom Salvetti (? I think that is the name). Well they are looking
at a fix for the RIT. Their thinking at this time is to use the CLEAR to set
the RIT to ZERO, but leave the RIT on. You would have to hit the RIT again to
turn it off. Not sure this is the absolutely correct solution, but certainly
a step in the right direction. Tom also mentioned that they are also
considering a means of changing the RIT rate via the user menu. But the key
word in all this discussion is that they are considering the change. When
they make up there mind, I am supose to get a letter in the mail offering
a update ROM for some nominal amount of money.
With these changes, the OMNI-VI should be a pretty fair CONTEST radio.
WARNING: this posting has NOT been cleared by the Grammer Police.
If you have a different opinion, now is probably a GOOD time to call them and
express your opinion.
73, Jim, WA6SDM
jholly@cup.hp.com
>From Stephen Lufcy <km0l@tyrell.net> Mon Oct 9 22:21:19 1995
From: Stephen Lufcy <km0l@tyrell.net> (Stephen Lufcy)
Subject: K6NP/M SUTTER CQP
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951009161847.21894A-100000@tyrell.net>
Hi Eric! Your mobile station in CQP was much louder than K6LL's vertical
over salt water- at least here in the midwest. Good to work you guys and
will be looking fer u in SS.
73 de KM0L
On Mon, 9 Oct 1995 EDWOODS@PACTIME1.SDCRC.PacBell.COM wrote:
> Had another blast with 500 w to the Texas Bugcatcher from Live Oak Rec.
> area in Sutter county. As usual, we found another boat launch/ camping
> site in orchard and rice country near the Feather River.
>
> Nice flat, wet ground for our 13 foot contest antenna. No Phillystran
> required.
>
> 771 x 53 = 103k. About 58% cw.
>
> Ops - N6UXB (@8.99 mo very pregnant), KO6OU, KN6OX, KJ6TC, NB6G & NV6O
>
> Rig: 765 + Hercules amp powered by Astron 60A supply into two HUGE Comm
> batteries. Worked great. The Astron only had to supply 30A during
> voice peaks. Boy, I bet those batteries would wiggle a lot of frog's
> legs!
>
> We did not have any significant problems except for the usual fights as
> to whose turn it was to play radio.
>
> Strange weather - 90deg. during the day, 30 at night. Froze my little
> tozies (I know I spelled it wrong, quack)
>
> Saturday evening, there was a christening celebration in the campsites
> about 100 feet from our location. Fantastic Mexican Music with sound
> system (live band!) for 6 hours. If you thought you had
> QRMexico........ayyyyyyyyyyyiiii.
>
> No mosquitos this time of year - well maybe a couple. Mostly large
> lethargic flies (flys?).
>
> We did manage to work Carl, AH8I, who was at KS6DV's in Pango Pango.
> This is the first year he did not do cqp mobiling with us. Hard to
> commute from KH8, I guess.
>
> 15 open slightly Saturday, better Sunday. No 10.
>
> We used K6NP since our group was mostly telephone people. K6NP is the
> call for the J. I. Sabin Telephone Pioneer Radio Club.
>
> Thanks for all the Q's.
>
> Eric NV6O
> edwoods@pacbell.com
>
>From Jan Seay <jans@muskox.alaska.edu> Mon Oct 9 22:28:12 1995
From: Jan Seay <jans@muskox.alaska.edu> (Jan Seay)
Subject: CAUTION on Guy Grips!!!!! (and a note on Nicopress fittings)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951009132527.26833A-100000@muskox.alaska.edu>
I think the confusion is in what you're calling "Guy Grips".
Utilities don't use guy grips, but use Strand Vices. Different
animals. Guy grips are tools for pulling up the cables, Strand
Vices are permanent end of strand termination, with loops to
make the tie to anchors, towers, etc.
73 - Del, KL7HF-
On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, John Brosnahan wrote:
>
> >I bought 100 grips at the place that sells them to small utility companies
> >for about $1 each (much cheaper than Texas Towers), and the cable seemed
> >to be free (it isn't hard to find as people don't like to use it).
>
> Tree--
> Just a word of caution about Preformed Line Products cable terminations.
> There are a number of different products for different applications and they
> should be thought of more as precision tools rather than a hunk of steel.
> Using the wrong product can range anywhere from "no problem" to very
> dangerous.
>
> The "Guy Grips" used by utility companies are a different product than the
> "Big Grips" used for tower and antenna guying. Actually the utilities will
> probably use both types depending on the application, and may have a few
> other types as well. The "Big Grips" are the correct product and are more
> expensive than the "Guy Grips". For example, the Big Grip used on 3/16 EHS
> 1x7 guy strand is longer and has one more strand than the Guy Grip that can
> be used on the same product. It is safer and more "heavy duty".
>
> There are different products for Galvanized Steel (which includes EHS, HS,
> Siemens Martin, and Utilities grade guy strand), Alumoweld, Aluminized,
> Copperweld, Stainless Steel. and Fiberglass guying and wiring products. Not
> to mention (but I will anyway) different products for 3 and 7 strand cable
> and of course you have to use the proper product for the lay of the guy
> wire. Both left hand and right hand lay are available, and the grip lay
> should match the guy wire lay.
>
> One common grip that the utilities use is for the aluminum 1x7 wire that is
> used as a "drop" from the utility pole to the house. This wire has a single
> steel strand for the core and the remaining strands are aluminum for their
> conductivity. You really don't want to use one of these grips on your
> tower. It will probably hold but may be the weak link and is not specified
> for tower applications or use on galvanized steel.
>
> BTW Grips are specified only for use for a maximum of three installations
> (for retensioning) and then only if they occur within three months because
> of the possibility of deterioration of the coating on the inner surface that
> inhances the grip. (This coating is very hard on gloves and after extensive
> testing of all of the various kinds of leather gloves that I could find I
> have determined that pigskin work gloves are 3 or 4 times more wear
> resistant than the next nearest leather material.)
>
> I wouldn't use a grip if it didn't have its label anymore (BTW they are
> color coded as well--but the codes overlap--since there are a lot more grip
> types than colors) and if I hadn't confirmed it to be the right tool for
> the job.
>
> If your life or property depends on a safe tower installation, I would
> contact Preformed Line Products at PO Box 91129, Cleveland, OH 44101.
> Phone 216-461-5200.
>
>
> **************
> Nicopress fittings are available from many other companies (such as Indusco
> and Newco) in both copper and aluminum. (The little aluminum ovals that are
> crimped onto the cable on winches.) These were designed for use on aircraft
> cable and when I wrote Nicopress about their use on 1x7 EHS guy strand
> (sometime in the 1970s--been doing this a long time) they said they had no
> information on their rating for 1x7 EHS but would test them. I have been
> unable to find the test results that they sent me (almost 20 years ago and
> my filing system isn't that good) but my recollection is that in most cases
> 2 of the fittings were stronger than the cable itself, but that in at least
> one test the 2-fitting setup failed before the guy strand. Their conclusion
> was that 3 were required on 1x7 to guarantee that the fittings were stronger
> than the cable. Of course use of the proper tool is also required--I have
> heard of people "setting" them with a hammer--shudder. The tool for the
> fittings for 1/4 cable gets pretty expensive, especially if you are only
> going to do a few. (Think I paid quite a bit over a hundred bucks in the
> 70s for mine.) And you need to do the proper number of crimps for the
> fitting you are using, of course.
>
> Hope this info is of some use--I am not an expert, just an informed user, so
> don't expect me to answer specific questions. If you want to do things
> right get the technical information from the appropriate companies and get
> their recommendations, you are paying for their lawyers anyway.
>
> 73 John W0UN
>
>
> John Brosnahan W0UN
> La Salle Research Corp 24115 WCR 40 La Salle, CO 80645 USA
> voice 970-284-6602 fax 970-284-0979 email broz@csn.net
>
>
>From Stephen Lufcy <km0l@tyrell.net> Mon Oct 9 22:39:10 1995
From: Stephen Lufcy <km0l@tyrell.net> (Stephen Lufcy)
Subject: Do You Have 1983 NCJ's?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951009163641.21894B-100000@tyrell.net>
i have NCJ's back to 1981 but am missing the one with your article in it.
However, there is a response to your article by W7NI in the letters of
the March-April 1983 NCJ.
73 de KM0L
On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Fred Hopengarten wrote:
> Topic: Do You Have 1983 NCJ's?
>
> I wrote an article titled: "PHILLYSTRAN - A Non-metallic
> Guy" which appeared in NCJ on pp. 16-18, but I'm not sure
> which issue. I think it was either Jan-Feb 1983, or Nov-Dec
> 1982. I cut it out and failed to note the issue.
>
> If you have those old issues, would you mind checking and
> telling me? If you have the K3LR complete collection (sold
> at Dayton), could you look it up?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fred Hopengarten K1VR
> Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
> home + office telephone: 617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
> internet: k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com
> "Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
> than small ones, low."
>
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