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Re: [Amps] 10 KW CCS ON 6M...USING THE 3CX-6000A7... PART 12

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Subject: Re: [Amps] 10 KW CCS ON 6M...USING THE 3CX-6000A7... PART 12
From: "Peter Voelpel" <dj7ww@t-online.de>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 00:07:46 +0100
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I know the BBC video on Youtube.

A Q of 22.5 or 20 is not necessary unless the lead length to the tune cap is
too long and stray C too high.

Here I would use a small vacuum variable with minimum C of 2-3pf, mounted
for minimum stray C vertically and close to the tube.

Then a Q of 15 is possible with a simple Pi, L= 330nH, C2 250pf type vac C.
L wound with 1" or less wide copper strap of course, works well even on 2m.
Fine tuning is not required, only when tune C is omitted.
An L-Pi circuit is always possible as well.

73
Peter, DJ7WW

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Sent: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2022 17:32
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Subject: Re: [Amps] 10 KW CCS ON 6M...USING THE 3CX-6000A7... PART 12

<With smaller vacuum caps, closer to the grid and only 2" separation between
<them, Q could be much lower and more L for a proper coil might be used.

<73
<Peter

## it still won't work with a vac tune cap with a minimum of 5 pf. (51 mhz)

Q= 21.5

C1= 6.9 pf

L= .22 uh

C2 =  237 pf

1.125" OD copper tubing would still be required. Trying to wind a .22 uh
coil

would be an absolute bitch, and no way to easily tweak it's value.

Circulating current through the coil would be slightly less, but still sky

high, at a whopping 71 amps.  A 2" wide strap coil would work, and far

easier to wind, but a bitch to fine tune. You don't get the 'proximity
effect'

with strap coils, since it's like 2 x knife edges facing each other. Strap

coils work good on 12 /10 m.


Ok, let's say you had a magical cap that went down to ZERO pf.

Q-20

C1 = 3.2 pf

L = .23 uh

C2 =  219.6 pf


To be practical, using a vac cap with a min of 5 pf, a Q = 22.5

would have to be used.  5 pf min C vac caps are NOT easy to locate. The 10
pf

min C vac caps are readily available..but then u are stuck with a Q=24-25.

Why use a Q = 22.5  when a Q=12 can be used, just by the addition  of the

2nd inductor.

The beauty of the semi circle inductors is.... their  length can easily

 be tweaked shorter / longer.  Shortening is dead simple, one end undone,
1/4"

cut off, then repunched with the ropey whitney hand punch, then
re-terminated.

On one of the 100kw AM SW broadcast pa's in the UK..on u-tube, they used the

same idea, but heavy tubing. They used lock down quick release latches at

each end, to quickly swap inductor's.  The U shaped inductors were used on

15 mhz and higher freqs. Tubing coils were used on all lower freqs.

Jim  VE7RF
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