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Re: [Amps] Drivel

To: "Mark Bitterlich" <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>, <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Drivel
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 15:03:32 -0400
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PLUS 1 Mark!

Subject: Re: [Amps] Drivel


Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com said:

To evaluate your opinion (and it is nothing but opinion, based on a religious belief in CW), I'd like to know exactly what emergency communications operations you have been a part of in the last ten years, and exactly what your participation entailed. And I'm not asking about drills or training sessions, I'm talking about real emergencies, like tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, explosions, wild-land fires, severe storms, landslides, and earthquakes.

I did not mention any participation in tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, explosions, wild-land fire, severe storms, landslides and earthquakes. What I did imply was that I really take exception to debate techniques like "asked and answered" (I guess that is actually a legal term), or where the other person puts words in my mouth that I never said, which you just did, and in addition makes fun of the other person by using terms like "having a religious belief in CW", all of which are intended to raise ire, cause emotional responses, and in general just be sarcastic and ugly. Please stop.

What I said was that using CW in an emergency will not get you killed.

So to reply in kind: Before I can evaluate your ability to even begin to assess my own, I would need to know whether or not you are a pilot, how many hours you have, whether you are instrument rated or have a Commercial or ATP ticket. Then I would need to know when the last time you served aboard a U.S. Naval Ship, which ones, for how long, and in what capacity, because that is what I *DID* talk about.



Mark
wa3jpy




----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Drivel


On Sat,4/29/2017 11:09 AM, Mark Bitterlich wrote:
But relying on CW is not going to get you killed.

To evaluate your opinion (and it is nothing but opinion, based on a religious belief in CW), I'd like to know exactly what emergency communications operations you have been a part of in the last ten years, and exactly what your participation entailed. And I'm not asking about drills or training sessions, I'm talking about real emergencies, like tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, explosions, wild-land fires, severe storms, landslides, and earthquakes.

FACT: CW is a great mode, no question about its advantages over voice modes -- IF the operators on both ends are good at it.

FACT: CW is a USELESS mode if there's NOT an operator on BOTH ends who is good at it.

OPINION: The chances of there being an operator on an FM repeater who can copy CW are pretty slim. When I'm using VHF/UHF FM, I'm usually the only one.

OPINION: The chances of SSB ragchewers being competent in CW gets increasingly slim as the ham population ages. And most SSB ragchewers are there because they DON'T work cw.

73, Jim K9YC

Founding member CWOPS, #69

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