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Re: [Amps] AC filament voltage regulator

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Subject: Re: [Amps] AC filament voltage regulator
From: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:18:34 -0400
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    If you really want to control the filament, make some optics, lens, 
filters and detectors and observe the
light from the filament and use that as feedback to the controller. Use the 
color temperature or the black body radiation curve to do it.
    Regulating the "average" AC Voltage rather than the RMS Voltage is just 
as good as long as
the waveform remains the same. Gee, how did we get by all these years 
without filament voltage regulators?
Even all those broadcast transmitters with adjustable (variac) filament 
voltages used average or
peak measuring meters. And the variacs and human intervention had a much 
slower response.
73
Bill wa4lav


At 09:38 AM 7/14/2011 -0400, Ron Youvan wrote:
>Hsu wrote:
>
> >    You are correct. But a problem ,AD's true RMS chip is not a 
> inexpensive device.
> >      I  have an idea, using a inexpensive CdS photoresistor-LED or 
> micro-bulb
> >   photocoupler( like  N110 in  ICOM  PS-35  power supply) because bulb 
> and CdS
> > photoresistor with very bad frequency response
> >     so the sampling voltage   will associate  with  true RMS volt  (I 
> guess) ...
> > If  the noise is not a problem and the tube's cathode is oxide-coated ,
> > the switching regulator is the best. but monolithic  IC  maximal out 
> put current
> > only 10A (ST's  L4970) others need external power MOS FET.
>
>
>    Hsu said his idea is to use the CdS photo-resistor and a micro-bulb to 
> create a home made
>photo-coupler to get a "slow response" version of a
>"opto-isolator" to measure a tube's heater Voltage, but that will result 
>more in an
>averaged value.
>
>    The best idea is to use a true RMS Volt meter such as almost every 
> Fluke DVM ever
>made to SET the RMS Voltage "at the tube," then use THE CURRENT Amperage 
>reading to maintain
>that Voltage.  The advantage is if a connection becomes lose and develops 
>an IR drop, the current
>will drop and you will turn up the Voltage control for the current that 
>gets you
>the correct current which is the correct "at the tube Voltage" until you 
>can no more make that
>current, then you will look for a bad connection, find and fix it.  (as 
>you tighten connections
>the current will rise)  A lot of commercial equipment works this way.
>--
>     Ron  KA4INM - Mistakes are often the stepping stones to utter failure.
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