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Re: [Amps] AC filament voltage regulator

To: hsu4qro@gmail.com, amps@grebe.plus.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] AC filament voltage regulator
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:22:21 EDT
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Hsu, are you referring to use of an opto-coupler, such as 4N25? Use of  
these devices will allow the regulator bridge and FET to be connected to the  
transformer primary which will reduce current requirements a large amount.
 
The frequency response of the couplers appears to be limited by the RC time 
 constant of the photo transistor base capacitance and external current 
limiting  resistor. It would be interesting to compare the effects of the 
resistor value  with RMS drive voltage to the device.
 
A failure of the FET in the bridge circuit will cause an over voltage to  
the tube filament/heater. Some means to prevent that needs to be added. 
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2011 5:37:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hsu4qro@gmail.com writes:

Hi  John,
You are correct. But a problem ,AD's true RMS chip is not a  inexpensive 
device.
I  have an idea, using a inexpensive  CdS photoresistor-LED or micro-bulb  
photocoupler( like  N110  in  ICOM  PS-35  power supply) because bulb and 
CdS    
photoresistor with very bad frequency response
so the  sampling voltage   will associate  with  true RMS  volt  (I guesss) 
...
If  the noise is not a problem and the  tube's cathode is oxide-coated , 
the switching regulator is the best. but  monolithic  IC  maximal out put 
current 
only 10A (ST's   L4970) others need external power MOS FET.
73!Hsu


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John G3UUT"  <amps@grebe.plus.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent:  Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] AC filament voltage  regulator


> I've also been thinking about this problem and the  reason I'm not keen 
> on a DC regulator is that the distortion and peak  current of the mains 
> current waveform is already pretty bad with a  capacitor input B+ supply 
> and making it worse by adding the heater as  well will undoubtedly make 
> the regulation of the B+ worse.  This  is particularly a problem when 
> using portable generators.
>  
> I've not taken this down to circuit level yet but my idea was to use  one 
> of the Analog Devices RMS to DC convertors as its important to  maintain 
> the RMS of the AC constant - especially when using poor  quality mains 
> from a generator.  Hsu - this is the problem with  your circuit.  My 
> other idea was to use a biphase rectifier with  a centre taped 
> transformer and schottky rectifiers to reduce the  diode losses - which 
> are quite significant with a 5 V heater.
>  
> 73 John G3UUT
> 
> On 10/07/2011 03:03, Dr. David Kirkby  wrote:
>> On 07/10/11 01:12 AM, Hsu wrote:
>>> I do not  think a DC regulator  for direct heater tube is a good idea,I 
draw   a block diagram for AC filament regulator  
here:http://www.zmdz.com/bbs/incomefiles/20117/1089098780.JPG, just a block  
diagram.any advice? I 
know we have another selection,CVT. a special  transformet.
>>>      73!Hsu
>> What's  wrong with a DC regulator?
>>
> 
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