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Re: [Amps] Good engineering

To: "'mikea'" <mikea@mikea.ath.cx>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Good engineering
From: "Alex Eban" <alexeban@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:53:59 +0300
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Well guys, I heard here in 4Zulu land about cars whose electronics were
messed up by their own ignition. Things would act up on their own.
Alex            4Z5KS 

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From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Amps] Good engineering

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 03:01:09PM -0400, Pete Smith wrote:
> I have read that in his testimony, the American in charge of Toyota 
> USA (Exec VP?) said that their on-board computers had not been 
> subjected to EMC testing.

> If that's the case, I wonder how many incidents are caused when joe 
> trucker pulls up alongside with his 400-watt solid state CB "linear"
> while chatting with his pals.

> "Ten-fourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr good buddy"

I was wondering very much the same sort of thing earlier today, though I
grant I was musing more on cellphones and other weaker QRM. 

A friend who was involved in automotive microcode for a US carmaker, rather
a while back, told me he had found some hundreds of disaster- guaranteed
code flaws, ranging from software race conditions resulting in indeterminate
results (roll dice) to brakes, steering, or other major subsystems failing
hard.

I doubt things have got a whole lot better. I am very decidedly troubled by
this bit of testimony. These are man-rated systems chock full of
electronics, and EMC testing damn well ought to be mandatory. 

--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin
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