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Subject: [Amps] Tentec Titan 425
From: "Jim Thomson" <Jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:40:30 -0800
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From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tentec Titan 425


These amps drive to full power with about 50 watts. Do NOT depend on ALC to 
set the power. Instead, back off on the drive power using the output power 
setting on your transceiver to get the desired power output from the amp. I 
start with about 30 watts of drive and tune the amp (Load and Tune) for 
maximum output on an SWR meter external to the amp. I keep the switchable 
meter ALWAYS set to watch grid current (see next paragraph). Tuning for max 
output will minimize harmonics and clicks. 

Operationally, the most important thing to watch on this amp is grid current. 
Too much grid current will cause early failure of the tubes. Keeping the grid 
current down will make them run forever. The ABSOLUTE max grid current is 
60mA per tube (120mA, full scale on the grid current meter). I run the grid 
current low -- my goal is to keep it below 30mA. Why so low? Because when 
something goes wrong in the antenna system, grid current will soar (because 
the amp has no protection to kill power when grid current rises). 

Protecting against excessive grid current when something breaks is the only 
good reason for ALC. I've never used it. 

### Then why not just add a simple  grid over current circuit ?? 
It's just a sense resistor, transistor, and relay...and pot. 
Then you can protect the 4 watt floozy grids in those expensive tubes. 

###  IMO, not installing electronic grid over current, on tubes using 
delicate grids is just asking for trbl.   The fix is so easy. What were
they thinking?    They saved all of < $10.00   The concept has been around
for > 30 years.  My buddy has a Ten Tec  centurion. [ 2x3-500Z].  When he 
1st got it, it sucked  full bore ZSAC... on RX!   Ten Tec later issued a..'fix' 
Do those folks know how to engineer anything correctly ?    Care and feeding sez
you require  grid over current protection.. [ and also plate over current]...so
why didn't they ?      

## The centurion manual  goes on ad nauseum about the 3.5 kva CCS  xfmr ten tec 
uses... then also states it's  7 kva  IVS !      That  IVS rating is a throw 
back to the 
Orr books.   "Int voice service"   The centurion will do 1.3 kw pep on ssb.. and
that's it.   So much the 3.5 kva CCS  nonsense. 

Later... Jim  VE7RF



73,

Jim K9YC 

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