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Re: [Amps] help with corona discharge

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Subject: Re: [Amps] help with corona discharge
From: Pat Barthelow <aa6eg@hotmail.com>
Reply-to: aa6eg@k6bj.org
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:39:37 -0800
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I first interpreted the comment on the blue glow observation, as meaning the 
glow is in the air out side the tube body, but now realize that what you are 
probably seeing is Cerenkov radiation generated inside the ceramic between the 
plate and the next structure of the tube.  And apparently being bright enough 
to illuminate the areas around the tube.   The cathode electrons accelerating 
to the plate approach the speed of light, and some splash, bounce into, or 
otherwise impact the ceramic, and the forced quick deceleration of the 
electrons down to the speed of light in the ceramic,  generates the blue 
Cerenkov radiation.  It is kind of like breaking the sound barrier phenom in 
air, very weird things happen and you see energy in various forms emitted.

Here is a picture of Cerenkov radiation in Water moderator/coolant of fuel rods 
in a Nuke Reactor:





http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Image:TrigaReactorCore.jpeg








All the best,   Pat Barthelow   aa6eg@k6bj.org 
Jamesburg Moon Bounce Team

http://www.jamesburgdish.org> From: cherokeehillfarm@earthlink.net
> To: asciibaron@comcast.net; k7fm@teleport.com
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:55:26 -0500
> CC: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] help with corona discharge
> 
> Every Commander amp that I have added QSK and vacuum relays to has had the
> blue glow when looking through the cooling fins..
> 
> The three holer on my desk, with brand new 3cpx800 tubes, glows blue.  The
> ten year old 3cx800 tubes also glow blue.
> 
> The tubes are full output, and there is no issue.  I believe the glow which
> appears when cut off bias is removed, may be dependant upon the trace
> elements in the ceramic, with different types of ceramic producing somewhat
> different colors.
> 
> Your amp is fine, you don't need to worry, just operate.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike
> W2AJI
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Hanlon" <asciibaron@comcast.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:28 AM
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> 
> > > Are you, by chance, operating at 20,000 feet?
> >
> > nope, about 160 or so.
> >
> > -Steve, WM3O
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