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Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 69, Issue 38

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 69, Issue 38
From: monk <monk36098674@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: monk36098674@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:35:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Inexpensive 1/4'' shaft couplers: 1/4 fuel line cut to size clamped to rods 
with two zip ties total cost 10 cents.
Cheap enough?

KD7RUR
Wayne


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> Subject: Amps Digest, Vol 69, Issue 38
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>    1. gg amp question... (jerome schatten)
>    2. Re: gg amp question... (Steve Katz)
>    3. Re: gg amp question... (Peter Voelpel)
>    4. Restoration of a Kenwood TS-940SAT (fainsbert)
>    5. Re: gg amp question... (jerome schatten)
>    6. Re: 1/4" shaft connectors (EP Swynar)
>    7. Re: 1/4" shaft connectors (Roger (K8RI))
>    8. Re: 1/4" shaft connectors (W7RY)
>    9. Re: 1/4" shaft connectors (Bob Maser)
>   10. Re: 1/4" shaft connectors
> (ToddRoberts2001@aol.com)
> 
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:40:56 -0700
> From: "jerome schatten" <romers@shaw.ca>
> Subject: [Amps] gg amp question...
> To: Amps <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <op.uh3p6ixoqdi3xw@linux.site>
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> 
> I'm trying to modify my pi network on a pair of gg
> 813's to work on  
> 160. Looking back into the plate circuit from the pi
> network, how to  
> estimate the ac plate circuit impedance that needs to be
> matched by  
> the pi network?
> 
> My handbook has a series of tables (11 of them) for
> determining  
> C(load), C(plate) and L for various values of Z(plate) for
> each band.
> 
> Basically it's a 10db amp that runs ~450w out with
> 2200v on the plates  
> and key down Ip of 400ma
> 
> Thanks for your insight,
> jerome - VA7VV
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:42:01 -0700
> From: "Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] gg amp question...
> To: "jerome schatten"
> <romers@shaw.ca>,     "Amps"
> <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
>       <31A81EFBA7CCA948882648CB542A30F427EEA8@jmr-exch01.ad.jmr.com>
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> 
> R = E/I = 2200/.4 = 5500 Ohms.
> 
> Close as you're gonna get.
> 
> -WB2WIK/6
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of jerome schatten
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: Amps
> Subject: [Amps] gg amp question...
> 
> 
> I'm trying to modify my pi network on a pair of gg
> 813's to work on  
> 160. Looking back into the plate circuit from the pi
> network, how to  
> estimate the ac plate circuit impedance that needs to be
> matched by  
> the pi network?
> 
> My handbook has a series of tables (11 of them) for
> determining  
> C(load), C(plate) and L for various values of Z(plate) for
> each band.
> 
> Basically it's a 10db amp that runs ~450w out with
> 2200v on the plates  
> and key down Ip of 400ma
> 
> Thanks for your insight,
> jerome - VA7VV
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:02:18 +0200
> From: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] gg amp question...
> To: "'Amps'" <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <338F4B3B442A47859D1D5D8348311DB1@ap200>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> About half of that will be right.
> Voltage swing is less then 2.2KV, and the conduction angle
> is not 360?.
> 
> 73
> Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve Katz
> Sent: Freitag, 26. September 2008 20:42
> To: jerome schatten; Amps
> Subject: Re: [Amps] gg amp question...
> 
> R = E/I = 2200/.4 = 5500 Ohms.
> 
> Close as you're gonna get.
> 
> -WB2WIK/6
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of jerome schatten
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: Amps
> Subject: [Amps] gg amp question...
> 
> 
> I'm trying to modify my pi network on a pair of gg
> 813's to work on 160.
> Looking back into the plate circuit from the pi network,
> how to estimate the
> ac plate circuit impedance that needs to be matched by the
> pi network?
> 
> My handbook has a series of tables (11 of them) for
> determining C(load),
> C(plate) and L for various values of Z(plate) for each
> band.
> 
> Basically it's a 10db amp that runs ~450w out with
> 2200v on the plates and
> key down Ip of 400ma
> 
> Thanks for your insight,
> jerome - VA7VV
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:47 -0400
> From: "fainsbert" <cmfainsbert@verizon.net>
> Subject: [Amps] Restoration of a Kenwood TS-940SAT
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <1E258030A21F4D43BF7198CDB1A9212E@Barn>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Can anyone recommend a tech who can do a mod upgrade and
> align a 5 million series Kenwood TS-940SAT? 
> 
> Since the 940 is so heavy, it would be preferable to work
> with someone on the East Coast [USA].
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chuck Fainsbert
> KC2NB
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:27:47 -0700
> From: "jerome schatten" <romers@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] gg amp question...
> To: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>,
> 'Amps' <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <op.uh3xwlc4qdi3xw@linux.site>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes;
> charset=utf-8
> 
> Thanks to all that replied...  Got it now.
> Best,
> jerome - va7vv
> 
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:02:18 -0700, Peter Voelpel
> <df3kv@t-online.de>  
> wrote:
> 
> > About half of that will be right.
> > Voltage swing is less then 2.2KV, and the conduction
> angle is not  
> > 360?.
> >
> > 73
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amps-bounces@contesting.com  
> > [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> > Behalf Of Steve Katz
> > Sent: Freitag, 26. September 2008 20:42
> > To: jerome schatten; Amps
> > Subject: Re: [Amps] gg amp question...
> >
> > R = E/I = 2200/.4 = 5500 Ohms.
> >
> > Close as you're gonna get.
> >
> > -WB2WIK/6
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amps-bounces@contesting.com  
> > [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> > Behalf Of jerome schatten
> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:41 AM
> > To: Amps
> > Subject: [Amps] gg amp question...
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to modify my pi network on a pair of gg
> 813's to work on  
> > 160.
> > Looking back into the plate circuit from the pi
> network, how to  
> > estimate the
> > ac plate circuit impedance that needs to be matched by
> the pi  
> > network?
> >
> > My handbook has a series of tables (11 of them) for
> determining  
> > C(load),
> > C(plate) and L for various values of Z(plate) for each
> band.
> >
> > Basically it's a 10db amp that runs ~450w out with
> 2200v on the  
> > plates and
> > key down Ip of 400ma
> >
> > Thanks for your insight,
> > jerome - VA7VV
> >
> >
> > --
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:07:24 -0400
> From: "EP Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> To: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>,
> <Gudguyham@aol.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <001501c92024$454c4e70$9c21334a@SwynarComputer>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I just clicked onto that site you mentioned, &
> looked-up their shaft
> couplers...
> 
> Do I understand correctly that their most INEXPENSIVE
> coupler costs a
> whopping $9.30...EACH?! If that's correct --- and I
> think that it is --- all
> I can say is that I'm still catching my breath...
> 
> Mother of pearl, NO WONDER nobody is doing any homebrewing
> anymore (PLEASE,
> someone, tell me I read the listing incorrectly!).
> 
> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> 
> 
> *************************************
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
> To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> 
> 
> > 1/4" shaft couplers are available from
> www.smallparts.com They are easy to
> deal with.
> >
> > 73
> > Jim W7RY
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Gudguyham@aol.com
> >   To: amps@contesting.com
> >   Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:26 PM
> >   Subject: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> >
> >
> >   Hi, does anyone out there have a stash of 1/4"
> shaft connectors?  Need
> not
> >   be insulated.  Want to buy quite a few if you have
> them.  Let me  know.
> The
> >   digital wattmeter popularity goes to the LP-100 so
> far!
> >   Lou
> >
> >
> >
> >   **************Looking for simple solutions to your
> real-life financial
> >   challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest news
> and information,
> tips and
> >   calculators.     
> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:33:21 -0400
> From: "Roger (K8RI)"
> <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> Cc: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <48DD7F51.3040104@rogerhalstead.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> EP Swynar wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I just clicked onto that site you mentioned, &
> looked-up their shaft
> > couplers...
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that their most INEXPENSIVE
> coupler costs a
> > whopping $9.30...EACH?! If that's correct --- and
> I think that it is --- all
> > I can say is that I'm still catching my breath...
> >   
> I just replaced the plastic window in a small radio.
> It's about 6" wide 
> by 3/4" high. It has 3 small words stenciled on it
> with one 1/8" hole 
> and a half moon cutout about 1/2" across. List price
> was $206. OTOH it 
> did say King KY197, but still...
> 
> I need to figure out how to replace those big glass
> frequency read outs 
> in my Hallicrafters 101 series receivers with plastic.
> 
> BTW if those couplings are of Brass, anything using copper
> has almost 
> tripled in price over the last two years.  If you want
> sticker shock 
> price 3/4 and 1" copper pipe. OTOH I use a lot of
> square, steel tubing 
> welded up for frames and fixtures.  It's more than
> doubled in just over 
> a year.
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
> > Mother of pearl, NO WONDER nobody is doing any
> homebrewing anymore (PLEASE,
> > someone, tell me I read the listing incorrectly!).
> >
> > ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:38:56 -0700
> From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <0707D514B09143F1BE16DDFA108E7D5C@jims>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ed
> You wanted shaft couplers. I found them and passed the info
> onto you.  I'm sorry they are too expensive from Small
> Parts. Buy them somewhere else then. I just responded to
> your want.
> 
> I will waste no more time looking for items when someone
> posts a want... Usually because they can't , don't
> know how or wont use a search engine.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 73
> Jim W7RY
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: EP Swynar 
>   To: W7RY ; Gudguyham@aol.com ; amps@contesting.com 
>   Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:07 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> 
> 
>   Hi Jim,
> 
>   I just clicked onto that site you mentioned, &
> looked-up their shaft
>   couplers...
> 
>   Do I understand correctly that their most INEXPENSIVE
> coupler costs a
>   whopping $9.30...EACH?! If that's correct --- and I
> think that it is --- all
>   I can say is that I'm still catching my breath...
> 
>   Mother of pearl, NO WONDER nobody is doing any
> homebrewing anymore (PLEASE,
>   someone, tell me I read the listing incorrectly!).
> 
>   ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> 
> 
>   *************************************
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
>   To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>;
> <amps@contesting.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> 
> 
>   > 1/4" shaft couplers are available from
> www.smallparts.com They are easy to
>   deal with.
>   >
>   > 73
>   > Jim W7RY
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Gudguyham@aol.com
>   >   To: amps@contesting.com
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:26 PM
>   >   Subject: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
>   >
>   >
>   >   Hi, does anyone out there have a stash of
> 1/4" shaft connectors?  Need
>   not
>   >   be insulated.  Want to buy quite a few if you have
> them.  Let me  know.
>   The
>   >   digital wattmeter popularity goes to the LP-100 so
> far!
>   >   Lou
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   **************Looking for simple solutions to your
> real-life financial
>   >   challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest
> news and information,
>   tips and
>   >   calculators.     
> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:53:54 -0400
> From: "Bob Maser" <bmaser@tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> To: "W7RY"
> <w7ry@arrl.net>,      <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <203125B7628649E3A663E0B73B802F7A@Main>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
> 
> Alan Bond at Max Gain has couplers a lot cheaper than Small
> Parts. $4 each.
> 
> Bob W6TR
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed
> > You wanted shaft couplers. I found them and passed the
> info onto you.  I'm 
> > sorry they are too expensive from Small Parts. Buy
> them somewhere else 
> > then. I just responded to your want.
> >
> > I will waste no more time looking for items when
> someone posts a want... 
> > Usually because they can't , don't know how or
> wont use a search engine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > 73
> > Jim W7RY
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  From: EP Swynar
> >  To: W7RY ; Gudguyham@aol.com ; amps@contesting.com
> >  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:07 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> >
> >
> >  Hi Jim,
> >
> >  I just clicked onto that site you mentioned, &
> looked-up their shaft
> >  couplers...
> >
> >  Do I understand correctly that their most INEXPENSIVE
> coupler costs a
> >  whopping $9.30...EACH?! If that's correct --- and
> I think that it is ---  
> > all
> >  I can say is that I'm still catching my breath...
> >
> >  Mother of pearl, NO WONDER nobody is doing any
> homebrewing anymore 
> > (PLEASE,
> >  someone, tell me I read the listing incorrectly!).
> >
> >  ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> >
> >
> >  *************************************
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  From: "W7RY" <w7ry@arrl.net>
> >  To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>;
> <amps@contesting.com>
> >  Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> >
> >
> >  > 1/4" shaft couplers are available from
> www.smallparts.com They are easy 
> > to
> >  deal with.
> >  >
> >  > 73
> >  > Jim W7RY
> >  >
> >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  >   From: Gudguyham@aol.com
> >  >   To: amps@contesting.com
> >  >   Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:26 PM
> >  >   Subject: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >   Hi, does anyone out there have a stash of
> 1/4" shaft connectors? 
> > Need
> >  not
> >  >   be insulated.  Want to buy quite a few if you
> have them.  Let me 
> > know.
> >  The
> >  >   digital wattmeter popularity goes to the
> LP-100 so far!
> >  >   Lou
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >   **************Looking for simple solutions to
> your real-life 
> > financial
> >  >   challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the
> latest news and information,
> >  tips and
> >  >   calculators. 
> > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
> >  >  
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:14:39 EDT
> From: ToddRoberts2001@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 1/4" shaft connectors
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <cb4.41c3b1ae.360ee2ff@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Hil,
> Surplus Sales of Nebraska has 1/4 x 1/4 shaft couplers for
> $4 each, $3.50  
> each 3 or more or $3.25 each for 20 or more.
>  
> 73 Todd WD4NGG
> 
> 
> 
> **************Looking for simple solutions to your
> real-life financial 
> challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest news and
> information, tips and 
> calculators.     
> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
> 
> 
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