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Re: [Amps] Hipersil, the myth and the truth. (Updated)

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Hipersil, the myth and the truth. (Updated)
From: Norman Hockler <norsan@bright.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:14:01 -0400
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  Will Matney has exposed the hype about Hipersil.

Very well presented Will.

Norm N8NH



At 11:01 PM 4/17/05 -0400, you wrote:
>Hipersil, the myth and the truth.
>
>I was asked about a transformer using nothing but a Hipersil transformer. 
>I offered an EI type, M6 material transformer of the same specs, but it 
>wouldn't do. Well folks, this gave way to me writing this for all on what 
>exactly is a Hipersil transformer.
>
>Hipersil is a trademark owned by Westinghouse Electric for a type of 
>transformer core and material they manufactured at one time. Hipersil, the 
>material, is mearly a cold rolled, grain oriented, silicon steel with 
>about 3.5% silicon added. That's it, nothing more. M6 material is the same 
>material offered by several steel manufacturers, and is what Westinghouse 
>bought in large coils. M6 is the AISI (American Iron and Steel Institute) 
>number for 3.5% silicon steel which has been cold rolled, with the grain 
>oriented in the rolling direction.
>
>
>What is cold rolled, grain oriented (CRGO)?
>
>This is a type of steel, which after being rolled out to a strip, or 
>sheet, is cold rolled again to where the grain of the steel orients itself 
>in a certain direction. What this does is drop the reluctance of the steel 
>to the magnetic flux, which in turn lowers its losses, nothing more.
>
>
>Why add silicon?
>
>Silicon is added to control residual magnetism (core staying magnetized ). 
>The thinness of the laminations controls eddy currents. There is different 
>grades of silicon steel, with varying amounts of silicon. On the lower end 
>is non oriented silicon steel (CRNO) which wasn't cold rolled for the 
>grain to line up like M50. On the upper end is M6 which is about the top 
>of the heap for CRGO steel without other alloying agents being added such 
>as cobalt ot nickel.
>
>
>What is a Hipersil core?
>
>Well, there are many "Hipersil" cores if you want to call them that, 
>including EI cores, but the steel manufacturers just use the "M" numbers 
>to designate the steel. The proper question is what is a "cut core" or a 
>"C-core"? A C-core is made by winding a thin strip of CRGO or CRNO steel 
>around a rectangular or square mandrel in a lathe. The steel strip has an 
>adhesive on it so it will bond together after it is rolled to a certain 
>thickness. This strip can be several thicknesses where 14 mils is a very 
>common one. The very thin ones like 2 mils is for higher frequency work in 
>the audio frequency range. 14 mils is commonly used in power transformers 
>for 50 and 60 Hz.
>
>After the core has been wound to the proper thickness, it is generally 
>annealed to improve its properties, or some are pre-annealed. It is then 
>bonded so it cant come apart. Next, the core is transfered to a band saw 
>and cut in half. Each half is marked and then the cut faces are either 
>machined or ground for a close fit when put back together. This helps 
>eliminate the air gap if any.
>
>
>Why is a Hipersil core touted to be better than an EI core?
>
>Well, there's a lot of myth and mis-information here. The only difference 
>between a cut core and an EI core using the same material is weight. This 
>weight savings is due simply to the corners being rounded off where an EI 
>core is rectanglar overall, that's it, nothing more. The weight savings 
>you'll get is from 15% to 20% just because the corners are rounded off. No 
>matter what, each type core has to have the same core area (A) in each type.
>
>A cores power handling ability (in watts or volt amperes) comes from its 
>ability to cram all the magnetic lines of force (flux) into a small core 
>area (flux density). Every core has a maximum flux density (Bmax) which is 
>determined by the cross sectional area of the core (A) and the material 
>the core is made from, nothing more. If this limit is exceeded, the core 
>goes into saturation. This means that any more increase in current does 
>not cause any more flux in the core. It also means that the cores 
>permeability drops off sharply at this point. The waveform becomes 
>distorted at the point of saturation and beyond too. A core is designed to 
>not saturate when maximum power is drawn from the transformer (this is not 
>the case in an inverter). Generally, a flux density is selected which is 
>just below Bmax at design time. Lets say the material gives a Bmax of 
>14,500 gauss. A working flux density of maybe 14,000, or 13,500 might be 
>used. However, this increases the weight of the core
>  because more iron has to be added to it to keep the flux density down. 
> This is why when selecting a transformer, you should figure the maximum 
> current in amperes to be drawn for each winding including losses. Losses 
> in most filtered power supplies run around 5% or so. The reason for this 
> is the designer trys to make the transformer as light as possible and 
> this in turn means they design the transformer to run as close to 
> saturation as possible without going over. On designing power chokes, the 
> DC portion has to be considered along with the AC to keep away from 
> saturation. The core can be gapped to correct some of this, but that is 
> more than what can be covered here at this time.
>
>What are the disadvantages to a C-Core?
>
>First and foremost is cost. The cost of pre-made cores is expensive unless 
>buying a large quantuty of each size. The mounting hardware costs more 
>than does on an EI core of the same size. The last, and an important one 
>is that a C-core runs hotter than an EI core of the same size. This is due 
>to the mass of iron being smaller than on an EI core, plus the fit of the 
>bobbin to the core. The only plus to a C-core is labor savings, and a 
>minor weight savings. It doesn't take as long to put together a C-core as 
>it does to stack an EI core. However, an experienced builder can go pretty 
>darn fast stacking the lams of an EI core, even being interleaved. 
>Actually, a tigther fit can be achieved of the coil to the core on an EI 
>core than a C-core, because of adding the lams, one at a time to the exact 
>thickness needed. With a C-core, you get the one thickness, that's it. To 
>make it fit, extra paper or wedges is used a lot. This also makes one heat 
>up more if the bobbin doesn't have a ti
>  ght fit to the core. This raises the cost of the mandrel used to wind 
> the coil as it's tolerances are tighter.
>
>
>Is an EI core better than a C-core?
>
>In my opinion, Yes! The reason being is the heat. Heat is the killer of 
>all electrical and electronic components. I wouldn't care if the core 
>weighed 20% more as long as it lasted longer.
>
>
>The above is just my opinion on the subject, and hope more have been 
>brought into the light on the differences between these two types of 
>transformers.
>
>Best,
>
>Will
>
>If you would like a PDF copy, please e-mail me.
>
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