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Re: [Amps] Tetrodes in GG Configuration

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Tetrodes in GG Configuration
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:22:35 -0500
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:03:21 +0000, Ian White, G3SEK <G3SEK@ifwtech.co.uk> wrote:

k7fm wrote:

There are some very good reasons to run a tetrode in grounded grid. Using the 4Cx1000A as an example, running it grid driven will result in unacceptable distortion products. To get acceptable levels you must increase the inverse feedback. Grounded grid inherently provides feedback and will improve the distortion products by about 6 db. Collins ran the 30S-1 with a 4CX-1000A in grounded grid, but also added negative feedback. The result is an amplifier significantly cleaner than the tube itself.


But don't forget that this amplifier used correct DC grid potentials, ie different for G1 and G2.

Perzactly! When I always mention a G-G circuit as "straight G-G", I mean all grids tied to ground. Though they still term them G-G when they have a bias and screen voltage applied plus are cathode driven. To me, this type should be only called cathode driven and not G-G. G-G should be used only for true "grounded grid" circuits only.




Whenever this discussion comes up, there is always uncertainty about exactly what is meant by "grounded".


Usually the questioner is meaning to ask: "Can I run a ceramic 4CXwhatever with both grids connected direct to chassis, same as you would with a glass 4-something?" Or in other words: "Can I do it the easy way, without screen and grid bias supplies?"

The answer to that is No, for the reasons that Rich gave in the very first response.



Perzactly again! Run them the way they were designed to run. Another thing I noticed was some forgetting a couple of good old 3-500Z's make for a good first amplifier running G-G. That is about one of the easiest amps to build bar none.


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PS: Ian, did you ever work me up anything on those transformer specs? If so, e-mail me. Thanks.
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