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[Amps] HELP: obsolete power zener for a TL-922

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Subject: [Amps] HELP: obsolete power zener for a TL-922
From: 2 at vc.net (2)
Date: Wed Jan 29 05:05:46 2003

>I repaired the amp and had another failure.  Logic tells me there's a good
>chance the failures are related, 

sound reasoning methinks.

>and I'd appreciate your thoughts as I am
>perplexed.
>
>To recapitulate, the first failure occured the first day I used the amp
>after it sat idle for six months.  Previously my friend, the amp's owner,
>had used it at his station, so the amp had never been previously run at my
>QTH.  It worked, seemingly alright, for a few QSO's on CW.  Then, while the
>amp was on but in standby mode, and  I was copying a fellow, there was a
>flash, a bang, and the amp lights went out.  

Deja vu.

>One fuse was blown,and the a.c.
>breaker tripped (20 A, 240 V).  Inside the amp, the 160 V 33 uf electrolytic
>which filters the 110 V control voltage half-wave rectifier had exploded.

Failure of this capacitor is usually hastened by 160m RF leaking into the 
power supply compartment past the too-tiny HV bypass cap of 2000pF.

>The metal foil appeaded to have shorted at least one of the control and
>filiment transformer's 120 v lugs to the case.  That was what I thought blew
>the fuse and tripped the breaker.  One end of the bias zener was cover by
>foil, and I assumed 120 V had gone through it - although the other end
>should have basically been floating if the amp was in the idle mode.  In any
>case, this failure happened with the amp sitting in standby mode where 100 V
>should have been applied to the grids to cut them off.  I replaced the zener
>and capacitor tonite, and the amp seemed to perform as before when slowly
>and carefully tested.
>
>The idle plate current was running about 180 ma indicated which is what it
>showed before.  I transmitted a few minutes, CW, and when I unkeyed, a relay
>chattered in the amp, and the amp's transmit light flashed off and on
>several times.  I noticed the rig was sitting peacefully in receive.  Then,
>the amp seemed to settle down, but I noticed about 100 ma of plate current
>when there should have been none.  I found two things upon inspection.
>First, the very same capacitor which was replaced - although with a 250 V
>rather than 160 V variety was very hot to the touch, and the case had
>expanded slightly.  Second, after much searching, one of the grid chokes (to
>ground) was open - and I could see where the wire had failed. 

My guess is the intermittent parasitic oscillation at c. 120MHz caused 
the glitch.  If you own a dipmeter, it might be interesting to measure 
the dip freq at the rear of the DC-blocker C at the rear of the Tune-C.  
The dip is usually deep enough to suck-out the dipmeter with close 
coupling, which indicates the resonant circuit that makes the dip 
probably does not have a low Q.

> I also
>noticed this choke did not match the other one, nor did the solder, so this
>is not the first time I suspect that the choke had failed.
>
Repeated choke failures can be caused by either encore parasites or by a 
shorted tube.  Also, the half-wave rectifier should be replaced with a 
full wave bridge and the 80V-rms winding rewired accordingly.  Changing 
the 922 from V-cutoff bias to R-cutoff bias may save the unfused filament 
transformer from getting crispy-crittered if and when a tube eventually 
shorts from the bursts in grid current that smokes the grid choke.  [for 
nitty-gritty, see 922 article].

>Does this sound to you like that parasitic problem you describe?  

Either that or maybe, just maybe, your 922 is very seriously posessed by 
The Devil !

>Do you or
>does anyone sell the vhf parasitic killer you describe on your webpage.  I
>am much puzzled.  Thanks!
>
Yours truly does.  Are you willing to loose c. 2% of the power out at 
29MHz by using lower-Q VHF parasite suppressors?

cheers, John

>
>| The 10w zener in a 922 may short during a parasite.  An article about the
>| 922 is available on my Web site.
>|
>| >Does anyone know of a source for power zeners?  I lost the bias zener in
>an
>| >old Kenwood TL-922.  It's 7.2 volts at unknow watts, but it carries both
>| >grid and plate current which could total near an amp, so it's likely at
>| >least a 10 watt device - and it looks it.  Kenwood says it's
>discontinued,
>| >and it's replacement, a "ZX7.5" is $49.70, and I'm hoping to find a less
>| >expensive solution.  It failed when a 160 volt electrolytic blew up and
>| >spewed foil around the base of the control transformer, and I think the
>| >zener got a dose of 110 v to ground - the amp was sitting in idle mode at
>| >the time.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>| >
>| >73, John, ke5c@arrl.net
>| >
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>|
>|
>| -  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734,AG6K,
>| www.vcnet.com/measures.
>| end
>|
>
>


-  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734,AG6K, 
www.vcnet.com/measures.  
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