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[AMPS] Chokes and Dipping chokes?

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Subject: [AMPS] Chokes and Dipping chokes?
From: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:02:49 -0500


On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:08:18 -0700 "Richard W. Ehrhorn" <w4eto@rmii.com>
writes:
>
>Did I miss something? How can you inductively couple a dipper to any 
>inductor's series resonance without shorting the subject L end-to-end? 

Nope you didnt miss a thing Dick...I just kept quiet for once and was
waiting for the groupies to comment.


>Any 
>dips you get with the RFC just sitting there, wired into the circuit 
>and 
>NOT shorted end-to-end, are not the choke's series self-resonance(s) 
>but 
>(a) those of the choke in series with all the external impedances that 
>
>connect it end-to-end (through several paths), or (b) parallel 
>resonances 
>of the choke and all the extraneous parallel Z's in the circuit.
>
>If you want to know whether your choke is series self-resonant at 21.5 
>MHz 
>(and therefore will likely either blow up, prevent the amp from tuning 
>up 
>correctly, or both, on 15m), you have to dip it in situ AND shorted 
>out 
>end-to-end with as low-L a strap as practical. I've found that if a 
>1/4" or 
>1/2" wide shorting strap is a couple of choke diameters away from the 
>
>winding it has little effect on dip frequencies. Results attained this 
>way 
>seem to correlate quite well with direct measurements of complex 
>impedance 
>made with a vector Z meter.


Agreed. I use the 1/4" silver plated strap from an old SB-220  output ckt
as my shorting strap, cut to fit of course. A hunk of wire and clip leads
is pure "amateur" level testing. The difference can be well over a Mhz at
25-30MHz.

73  Carl  KM1H

>
>Dick

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