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Re: Topband: Rather use N-type (was Re: The answer to PL-259

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Subject: Re: Topband: Rather use N-type (was Re: The answer to PL-259
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 20:26:37 -0500 (EST)
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Hi Mike, 


Captivated pin N connectors for hardline coax fits tightly over 
the center conductor. 


Captivated pin N connectors for flexible coax typically has a 
pin that requires solder. 


Floating pin N connectors belong in the trash bin. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Waters" <mikewate@gmail.com> 
To: lists@oakcom.org 
Cc: "topband" <topband@contesting.com> 
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:10:38 AM 
Subject: Re: Topband: Rather use N-type (was Re: The answer to PL-259 

The one I have in my hand has a solder hole in it. I take it that there are 
newer ones that have contacts that grip the coax center conductor? 

73, Mike 
www.w0btu.com 

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 6:04 PM Steve Maki <lists@oakcom.org> wrote: 

> Well here's the advantage of captivated center pins: the pin is NOT 
> bonded to the center conductor. IOW, if the coax center conductor 
> shrinks a bit, it can slide in the center pin and the pin stays put. 
> 
> And that's exactly what you want it to do - especially with an N connector. 
> 
> -Steve K8LX 
> 
> 
> On 12/07/18 14:25 PM, Mike Waters wrote: 
> 
> > Exactly my experience, even with captivated pins!! And my coax runs were 
> > only about 100' long. 
> > 
> > The captivating washers were made of Teflon®, *and Teflon cold flows*. 
> This 
> > was when I lived in Toledo, Ohio when the temperature dropped well below 
> > zero. 
> > 
> > Four photos of those N connectors are at 
> > http://www.w0btu.com/files/misc/N_plugs . See the last two. 
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 1:02 PM Richard (Rick) Karlquist < 
> richard@karlquist.com> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> >> My two 500 foot RG-216 military surplus cables both eventually exhibited 
> >> retracted pins on the type N connectors at both ends. I replaced them 
> with 
> >> PL-259's. ... Success anecdotes about install once and never touch 
> again 
> >> commercial sites are probably not relevant to ham applications. 
> 
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