I'm with you - work them all, however it has to be done. A Q is a Q and
guys who are setting "I won't work em" thresholds clearly have not ran into
the case of having worked all the guys on the band. Plus a novice to RTTY
contesting op does not necessary mean he's got a poor signal. While you are
busy ignoring him he may be strong enough to hold off the other guys while
you are practicing the pure-sig only method.
There are plenty of issues with novice use of loggers but you get into Ford
vs. Chevy discussions there. I saw more uses of the generic macros from HRD
than this reverse sequence thing which may come from N1MM. Probably does
not happen much with WL because you have to pay up to get into that -
something the casual user probably won't do.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Stai
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:53 PM
To: k0rc@citlink.net
Cc: Jeff AC0C ; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Upside-down RTTY contest QSO's
It sounds more like a training or a documentation error, because the folks
doing this are doing it consistently. Either the tool is too easy to misuse
or the "how-to" is not directing them to the correct usage.
I'm never going to turn down a Q because of it. However, it is inefficient
and is not as robust in the face of marginal conditions. Many Qs have been
lost because the other op was unable or unwilling to break pattern. We both
lose when this happens, and less fun is had by all. 73 jeff wk6i
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
wrote:
Yes, an operation error. N1MM+ only moves the cursor into the RST field(s)
if you use the *TAB* key. The operator should be using the *SPACEBAR* key
to move between the call sign and the (unique) exchange fields. There is
no
need to pass through the RST fields with the cursor during a contest.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 2/13/2017 2:46 PM, Jeff AC0C wrote:
If you are using N1MM and the ESM feature (common for RTTY operation
setup), the default the program will pick once you have the run guy's
call
loaded is to send your call (correct in the sequence). But if you have
anticipated the exchange and loaded it in, N1MM moves the pointer over to
the exchange (which is what these guys are sending). The execution in
both
cases is the same (right click). That may be where this is coming from
in
the N1MM case. It's not a program issue though - it's an operator error
issue because the N1MM/ESM flow works perfect if you are driving it
correctly.
73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
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-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Stai
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Peter Laws
Cc: John Merrill ; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Upside-down RTTY contest QSO's
Somewhere along the way, in the past few months, I picked up the
impression
that one of the contest loggers had this exchange "style" as a default,
and
that that is why we are seeing it more.
I know it isn't Writelog, but I don't know if it is or isn't N1MM+ or
something else. Maybe someone familiar with other loggers can look into
it.
73 jeff wk6i
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:09 PM, John Merrill <johnn1jm@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are still some that do not send 599 when required by the rules.
They seem to get confused when I REPLY RST? RST?.
Yeah ... we need to work on sponsors to ditch that. Put in something
else. Shoe size or something. BARTG is half-way there. :-)
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