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Re: [RTTY] software

To: David Levine <david@levinecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] software
From: Dick Flanagan <dick@k7vc.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:37:51 -0800
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For $18 you can get a fully operational version of Writelog that you 
can use as long as your like to check out the look and feel of the 
product.  It will give you more than a fair opportunity to assess its 
capabilities and functionality.  Then, if you like it, you can then 
decide if you want the most recent bells and whistles version.

Dick

At 12:28 PM 1/13/2011, David Levine wrote:
 >I don't think anyone is insisting on free, but today most applications have
 >a way to test drive them. They are either restricted to a particular amount
 >of time, reduced capacity (can only enter xx contacts in a contest as an
 >example) or some other throttle that allows you to try things out and
 >determine if you want to purchase the product.
 >
 >i think the point has been made, and if WL's strategy is pay or get nothing,
 >then from me, it might be get nothing. I wonder how many more of "me" there
 >are out there? Like I posted, I have no issue paying $30 (per year) for
 >something that gives me value, but I'm not willing to pay $30 to find out
 >there is possibly no value for something.
 >
 >At least with $30 in laxative, you probably are up to $90 in toilet paper
 >too.
 >
 >David - K2DSL
 >
 >
 >On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Dick Flanagan <dick@k7vc.com> wrote:
 >
 >>  I spend more than $30 a year on laxatives.  If you insist on everything
 >> being free, you are to lose out on a lot of quality products.
 >>
 >> Dick
 >>
 >>
 >> At 09:04 AM 1/13/2011, David Levine wrote:
 >> >Jerry,
 >> >
 >> >Thanks for the reply. So for $18 I could check out an almost year old
 >> >version of the logging program? Or their page should be updated to
 >> indicate
 >> >for $18 you would get the current version and not the version they
 >> indicate
 >> >which is from Feb 2010.
 >> >
 >> >How can you all use logging program software that is "old" and not
 >> upgraded?
 >> >I couldn't imagine going more then a release or 2 of N1MM without
 >> updating.
 >> >How do you work with a contest where the rules are changing since the last
 >> >run of the contest? That seems to be at least a recent and recurring
 >> >situation with contests where there are at least subtle but sometimes
 >> larger
 >> >changes in the rules, what's a multiplier, etc. If your version isn't up
 >> to
 >> >date, doesn't that present problems? I guess if you are focused solely on
 >> >logging contacts, and the exchange info isn't changing, then an old
 >> version
 >> >might just work fine, but it certainly wouldn't highlight new mults or
 >> >possibly provide support for some rule changes that could be software
 >> >related such as band change timers, etc.
 >> >
 >> >I'd love to have both up and running to see which I like better and,
 >> >probably more so, to help out others that have questions on getting things
 >> >setup with similar equipment. I know in my local club, I only recommend
 >> N1MM
 >> >because it's the only one I could actually help the person with if they
 >> had
 >> >questions. I couldn't even suggest Writelog because I wouldn't want them
 >> to
 >> >have an issue, in Writelog's case spend $30, and I could go over and help
 >> >them. Sure there are others that can help, but I personally would only
 >> >recommend something I've used and could directly help them with.
 >> >
 >> >I'm sure Writelog is a very good program since there are top contesters
 >> >using it and $30/yr isn't worth arguing about if it's your tool of choice,
 >> >but not upgrading because of a fee seems like someone is losing out.
 >> >
 >> >David - K2DSL
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net
 >> >wrote:
 >> >
 >> >> Check www.writelog.com . They have a "newbie special" for $18.
 >> >> Intended as a trial, but fully featured.
 >> >>
 >> >> I have been using WL for ten years or so. Back then it was twice the
 >> >> price initially, and then an annual fee of $30 or so just to maintain
 >> >> it. That money was and still is the best money I ever spent on
 >> >> something for the shack.
 >> >>
 >> >> It is an even better deal now, and my yearly cost is less because I
 >> >> don't upgrade every year.
 >> >>
 >> >> Since you are already comfortable with a different package, YMMV.
 >> >>
 >> >> Jerry W4UK
 >> >>
 >> >> At 07:07 AM 1/13/2011, David Levine wrote:
 >> >> >Cheryl,
 >> >> >
 >> >> >I'd like to try Writelog. I've used N1MM for 2 years now. Can I *try*
 >> >> >Writelog or do I need to pay $30 to find out I prefer N1MM?
 >> >> >
 >> >> >My guess is that I'm so comfortable with N1MM and know how to work it
 >> for
 >> >> >what I need, that like you return to WL, I'd return to N1MM because it
 >> is
 >> >> >what I'm comfortable/familiar with. But I'd like to try it out and see.
 >> If
 >> >> I
 >> >> >need to pay $30 for even a brief test drive, I'm not interested.
 >> >> >
 >> >> >For N1MM, I tell folks all the time that it is comprehensive and
 >> complex,
 >> >> >but a typical user just needs to do the setup and learn the small set
 >> of
 >> >> >features they will initially use. Over time, there are additional
 >> features
 >> >> >to take advantage of, but there's no need to deal with everything in
 >> N1MM
 >> >> to
 >> >> >get started.
 >> >> >
 >> >> >73
 >> >> >K2DSL - David
 >> >> >
 >> >> >On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Cheryl Whitlock <cherwhit@gmail.com
 >> >> >wrote:
 >> >> >
 >> >> > > I agree with Andrei. Writelog and MMTTY are the way to go.
 >> >> > >
 >> >> > > I guess it depends on what you start out with and for me it was
 >> >> Writelog at
 >> >> > > Field Day in the late 1990s. Tom, KE4KWE sat me down and taught me
 >> how
 >> >> it
 >> >> > > worked. Before that I had been running machine RTTY; a C-64 with a
 >> AEA
 >> >> > > interface; and a Radio Shack Model IV with a Hal terminal unit and
 >> >> ROM-116
 >> >> > > interface. That Field Day with Writelog was my first experience in
 >> >> > > contesting and I loved it.
 >> >> > >
 >> >> > > I know a lot of you swear by N1MM and I gave it a try, but I keep
 >> >> coming
 >> >> > > back to Writelog.
 >> >> > >
 >> >> > > 73,
 >> >> > >
 >> >> > > Cheryl, AA4YL
 >> >>
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