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Re: [RTTY] Best program

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] Best program
From: "Rick Ruhl" <ricker@cssincorp.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:09:28 -0600
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Brian is bitter because the ham that cracked his program told him as long as
he continued to create versions of it, that he would crack it since he
thought all software should be free (Sound familiar).  When someone steals
from you, you remain bitter.  Microsoft did that to me with some contracts
we had, and I remain bitter about that to this day.  One place you don't
steal from anyone is their wallet or one becomes bitter.

I bet if you offered him some major bucks to buy the source code, he'd
respond to that.   That would make him feel like someone valued his work. I
did that with Dick Litchel and Pakratt, bought the source from him.   Stop
trying to get coders to give away their work, it's all we have that we can
make money with.

Now:

To do this under Windows doing it the way Brian did, we'd have to access the
hardware directly, like he did under DOS. This can be done under Windows,
but we'd need to do a Ring 0 device driver and put much of the code in
there.  It would have to be a replacement for your current drive that comes
with your soundcard, because I think chaining it to the stock drive would
cause more latency.  This would mean we'd have to get hardware information
for every soundcard and write a driver for every soundcard.  Doesn't sound
fun or easy, does it?

Brian wrote directly to the soundcards hardware without the use of a driver.
That's the DOS model.  The Windows model requires that drivers interact with
the Kernel. 

A better way to do this is to put the code into a TRUE usb device and talk
to the USB driver directly. Joe already said he could do this but it would
loose money.  See, putting into an external DSP processor would mean that
you access the hardware directly and it would be better that RITTY.  

So if anyone has a couple hundred thousand dollars or more that wants to
fund the development for Joe and I (or Dave C or Dave B), then we'd be more
than happy to do it.

But like Joe said, some other hardware company would pirate it and steal the
code and poof, there goes the market.

Rick - W4PC
 

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:52 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Best program

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:59:10 -0500
> From: "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@ambersoft.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Best program
> To: <rtty@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <8DA2E2677BEB499490DBA841B7829213@dxlab>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="windows-1250"
> 
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
> 
> >>>I have spoken at length with Brian, and found him completely unwilling.
> The piracy of RITTY and the negative reaction to his attempts to eliminate
> that piracy have not left Brian in a charitable mood with respect to
amateur
> radio. He was also skeptical that RITTY could be made to work correctly
> under the Windows scheduler.
> 

I agree with Neal's next posting in that I've been sufficiently satisfied
with MMTTY's performance to continue to use it.  I've even managed to win a
contest or two with it, however I guess that what it lacks compared to RITTY
must be made up with big aluminum. 

All due respect, it's a shame that he's continued to be bitter about it this
long.  I've never used RITTY, always considered it overpriced as compared to
multimode hardware modems that were as cheap if not cheaper and did more
then RTTY alone.  Although probably not as well, they performed well enough
for my needs at the time (read: poor college student), without the
requirements of what was specific hardware.  

>From reading this forum there are several users who seem to know (to my
uneducated programming experience) enough about DSP and coding, to write a
program coupled with the improvements in technology and computing, that
should blow RITTY out of the water and put an end to the debate of how a
software application compares to a closed door, aged app that has no hope of
evolving for the future.

Would love to see it Dave.. wink wink..

Charlie
KI5XP






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