From ab2e at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  2 17:42:38 2016
From: ab2e at hotmail.com (AB2E Darrell)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 22:42:38 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX
Message-ID: <SN1PR16MB04472CD166FC6B1B675DC1599B8E0@SN1PR16MB0447.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

Hello All,

I have Skimmer running fine by itself. I have the following setup.


Skimmer/LP-Pan/Asus U7

Wintelnet X merging regular cluster/RBn/Skimmer exporting as RXTEL to N1MM+


N1MM+ receives all the Skimmer spots in the Telnet window OK.

However, they are greyed out and instead of a callsign for the spotter, it has a -# (I note the RBN source spots have the spotter's call then the -#)

Because they are greyed out, they are not appearing in the Band Map.


There must be a setting in one of these programs I am overlooking.


Any help appreciated.


Email me offlist at ab2e at hotmail.com

73 Darrell AB2E


From k1ttt at verizon.net  Fri Dec  2 18:04:39 2016
From: k1ttt at verizon.net (David Robbins)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 23:04:39 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX
In-Reply-To: <SN1PR16MB04472CD166FC6B1B675DC1599B8E0@SN1PR16MB0447.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN1PR16MB04472CD166FC6B1B675DC1599B8E0@SN1PR16MB0447.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <001b01d24cf0$790ad220$6b207660$@verizon.net>

You have 3 sources going into wintelnetx??  Which one(s) are missing the
callsign??  Maybe only connect one at a time to sort out which source has a
problem.  I recommend when combining sources like that to set all ports to
'Port Data Type = Direct', that should eliminate any confusion on
wintelnetx's part about what to do with the data.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373



-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
AB2E Darrell
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 22:43
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com; N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX

Hello All,

I have Skimmer running fine by itself. I have the following setup.


Skimmer/LP-Pan/Asus U7

Wintelnet X merging regular cluster/RBn/Skimmer exporting as RXTEL to N1MM+


N1MM+ receives all the Skimmer spots in the Telnet window OK.

However, they are greyed out and instead of a callsign for the spotter, it
has a -# (I note the RBN source spots have the spotter's call then the -#)

Because they are greyed out, they are not appearing in the Band Map.


There must be a setting in one of these programs I am overlooking.


Any help appreciated.


Email me offlist at ab2e at hotmail.com

73 Darrell AB2E

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From ab2e at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  2 18:20:29 2016
From: ab2e at hotmail.com (AB2E Darrell)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:20:29 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX
In-Reply-To: <001b01d24cf0$790ad220$6b207660$@verizon.net>
References: <SN1PR16MB04472CD166FC6B1B675DC1599B8E0@SN1PR16MB0447.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>,
	<001b01d24cf0$790ad220$6b207660$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <SN1PR16MB0447F2C465164751DC3B054A9B8E0@SN1PR16MB0447.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks Dave,

Potentially I can run all 3 sources.
Running just Skimmer, all my incoming spots are greyed out, and all have a -# but no spotter callsign.


I just checked the Port settings in Skimmer in WintelnetX.

The Port Data Type is greyed out and set on Cluster.

How do I go about changing it?


73 Darrell AB2E



________________________________
From: David Robbins <k1ttt at verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 6:04 PM
To: 'AB2E Darrell'; skimmertalk at contesting.com; 'N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX

You have 3 sources going into wintelnetx??  Which one(s) are missing the
callsign??  Maybe only connect one at a time to sort out which source has a
problem.  I recommend when combining sources like that to set all ports to
'Port Data Type = Direct', that should eliminate any confusion on
wintelnetx's part about what to do with the data.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373



-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
AB2E Darrell
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 22:43
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com; N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] question Skimmer/N1MM+/WintelnetX

Hello All,

I have Skimmer running fine by itself. I have the following setup.


Skimmer/LP-Pan/Asus U7

Wintelnet X merging regular cluster/RBn/Skimmer exporting as RXTEL to N1MM+


N1MM+ receives all the Skimmer spots in the Telnet window OK.

However, they are greyed out and instead of a callsign for the spotter, it
has a -# (I note the RBN source spots have the spotter's call then the -#)

Because they are greyed out, they are not appearing in the Band Map.


There must be a setting in one of these programs I am overlooking.


Any help appreciated.


Email me offlist at ab2e at hotmail.com

73 Darrell AB2E

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From w0mu at w0mu.com  Mon Dec 19 21:46:56 2016
From: w0mu at w0mu.com (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 19:46:56 -0700
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
Message-ID: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>

I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which 
currently is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200 
decoders on 160 cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver 
to adjust the noise level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I 
started seeing decoders popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted 
the QSR1 and that seemed to stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues 
to grow.

I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it appears 
to be under powered to handle the task.  It is an older quad core with 
16 GB of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was killer.    I guess I 
will try one of my son's older gaming rigs which I think is an I7 and 
see if that can handle the load.  I checked my ini files and they are in 
sync.  Is there anything else to check before attempt to load up the 
other machine.  I am using the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That 
should not be an issue should it?

Thanks for the help

W0MU



From wes.cosand at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 22:35:10 2016
From: wes.cosand at gmail.com (Wes Cosand)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:35:10 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <CAEZgdkZOB=_S0smgecNGbOd6TnwnWAWzYsEP2ofyvodj0-uR3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike:

At about 10 pm local time I have 500 CW decoders on 160 meters using 192
khz bandwidth and CW Segment. (My 10-80 meter HyTowerJr antenna was damaged
last week in an ice storm so it isn't an optimal 160 antenna.)

If there are any SSB signals you will probably get large numbers of
decoders, depending on your bandwidth and your CW segment parameter in your
ini file.

Gain some comfort running just the CW skimmer server first before adding
RTTY.  Watch the CPU load as you change the number of bands, the bandwidth,
and the CW segments.

Then begin adding RTTY, copying and pasting the CenterFreq parameter line
and the SegmentSel line.  Keep narrow RTTY Segments at first, watching the
Available Resources meter on the RTTY Skimmer application.  Hope I haven't
forgotten something important... sigh...

Feel free to email me if you have questions.  It takes a fast machine to do
much with both skimmers at the same time but your son's older I7 ought to
do reasonably well.

The 30 day trial isn't crippled in any way.

Wes WZ7I



On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:46 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which currently
> is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200 decoders on 160
> cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver to adjust the
> noise level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I started seeing
> decoders popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted the QSR1 and that
> seemed to stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues to grow.
>
> I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it appears to
> be under powered to handle the task.  It is an older quad core with 16 GB
> of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was killer.    I guess I will try one
> of my son's older gaming rigs which I think is an I7 and see if that can
> handle the load.  I checked my ini files and they are in sync.  Is there
> anything else to check before attempt to load up the other machine.  I am
> using the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That should not be an issue
> should it?
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> W0MU
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
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> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>



-- 
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6299 Route 413
PO Box 349
Pipersville, PA 18947

From keepwalking188 at ac0c.com  Mon Dec 19 22:54:53 2016
From: keepwalking188 at ac0c.com (Jeff AC0C)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:54:53 -0600
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <7AD799B59AB84CE4B0D39B05B046B327@w520>

RTTY skimmer is a rock crusher.  I mean big bolder sized beasties and if you 
want to skim multiple bands especially on a contest weekend you are talking 
about bringing Intel's best to it's knees.

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:46 PM
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions

I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which
currently is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200
decoders on 160 cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver
to adjust the noise level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I
started seeing decoders popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted
the QSR1 and that seemed to stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues
to grow.

I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it appears
to be under powered to handle the task.  It is an older quad core with
16 GB of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was killer.    I guess I
will try one of my son's older gaming rigs which I think is an I7 and
see if that can handle the load.  I checked my ini files and they are in
sync.  Is there anything else to check before attempt to load up the
other machine.  I am using the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That
should not be an issue should it?

Thanks for the help

W0MU


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From n6tv at arrl.net  Mon Dec 19 23:01:05 2016
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:01:05 -0800
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKG+nJANOEXe17hCcN85EtqADDm3Qob2-1k57WL93AvmmDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:46 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which currently
> is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200 decoders on 160
> cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver to adjust the
> noise level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I started seeing
> decoders popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted the QSR1 and that
> seemed to stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues to grow.


The best way to figure out what is causing all those decoders is to use CW
Skimmer, rather than Skimmer Server, so you can view and listen to every
signal the Skimmer is "seeing" and marking with a "decoder dot".  You can
view them on a waterfall display and listen to them on the PC speaker
output or headphones.

Chances are it's a just local noise source such as unshielded Ethernet
cables, a switching power supply, or broadcast harmonics generating many
carriers on the band.

As for RTTY Skimmer, you can run it on slower machines, and it should
gracefully scale back or "throttle" it's usage if there isn't enough
horsepower for it to create all of the required RTTY decoders.

73,
Bob, N6TV

From wes.cosand at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 23:09:24 2016
From: wes.cosand at gmail.com (Wes Cosand)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:09:24 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <CAEZgdkZmpgnFSq+fu0-qkok3oGHnohtcxqq3N_oyoApDMt=j3A@mail.gmail.com>

A second thought.  You probably have already taken care of this, but if
there are questions about whether  Petr Paryzek's CWSL_Tee.dll is installed
correctly you can find directions for all this at

http://reversebeacon.blogspot.com/2013/03/magic-with-qs1r-two-apps-at-once.html

Good luck

Wes

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:46 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which currently
> is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200 decoders on 160
> cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver to adjust the
> noise level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I started seeing
> decoders popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted the QSR1 and that
> seemed to stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues to grow.
>
> I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it appears to
> be under powered to handle the task.  It is an older quad core with 16 GB
> of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was killer.    I guess I will try one
> of my son's older gaming rigs which I think is an I7 and see if that can
> handle the load.  I checked my ini files and they are in sync.  Is there
> anything else to check before attempt to load up the other machine.  I am
> using the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That should not be an issue
> should it?
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> W0MU
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>



-- 
Wes Cosand
6299 Route 413
PO Box 349
Pipersville, PA 18947

From w0mu at w0mu.com  Mon Dec 19 23:18:54 2016
From: w0mu at w0mu.com (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:18:54 -0700
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <CAEZgdkZOB=_S0smgecNGbOd6TnwnWAWzYsEP2ofyvodj0-uR3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
	<CAEZgdkZOB=_S0smgecNGbOd6TnwnWAWzYsEP2ofyvodj0-uR3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37943e71-1b19-759b-9ea0-044a65887150@w0mu.com>

Thanks Wes.

I have run my CW skimmer on and off for years.  I just put it back on 
the air a while back.  I was asked about adding RTTY from a local RTTY 
big gun.

I obviously had never paid any attention to the 160 decoders before.  
The computer handles the CW just fine but as soon as I turn on the RTTY 
server I get the overload message on the skimserver.

Can I run the RTTY skimmer on just a couple of bands while CW on 7 bands 
with the QSR1 or does it not work that way.  Right now the RTTY decoder 
is trying to decode on 80,40,30,20,15 and 10....

I used the setup guide that I think Pete made for CW and RTTY with the 
QSR1.  I need to get that other computer going and see what processor it 
has.  This computer it is on now is a 4 cord amd 3.5 ghz  cpu but it is 
pretty old.

Thanks all for the quick replies!

W0MU


On 12/19/2016 8:35 PM, Wes Cosand wrote:
> Hi Mike:
>
> At about 10 pm local time I have 500 CW decoders on 160 meters using 
> 192 khz bandwidth and CW Segment. (My 10-80 meter HyTowerJr antenna 
> was damaged last week in an ice storm so it isn't an optimal 160 
> antenna.)
>
> If there are any SSB signals you will probably get large numbers of 
> decoders, depending on your bandwidth and your CW segment parameter in 
> your ini file.
>
> Gain some comfort running just the CW skimmer server first before 
> adding RTTY.  Watch the CPU load as you change the number of bands, 
> the bandwidth, and the CW segments.
>
> Then begin adding RTTY, copying and pasting the CenterFreq parameter 
> line and the SegmentSel line.  Keep narrow RTTY Segments at first, 
> watching the Available Resources meter on the RTTY Skimmer 
> application.  Hope I haven't forgotten something important... sigh...
>
> Feel free to email me if you have questions.  It takes a fast machine 
> to do much with both skimmers at the same time but your son's older I7 
> ought to do reasonably well.
>
> The 30 day trial isn't crippled in any way.
>
> Wes WZ7I
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:46 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com 
> <mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which
>     currently is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200
>     decoders on 160 cw???  Is there something I need to do with the
>     receiver to adjust the noise level or something?  I turned off 160
>     and then I started seeing decoders popping on 15m and the band is
>     dead. I restarted the QSR1 and that seemed to stop the 15m issue
>     but the 160 one continues to grow.
>
>     I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it
>     appears to be under powered to handle the task.  It is an older
>     quad core with 16 GB of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was
>     killer.    I guess I will try one of my son's older gaming rigs
>     which I think is an I7 and see if that can handle the load.  I
>     checked my ini files and they are in sync.  Is there anything else
>     to check before attempt to load up the other machine.  I am using
>     the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That should not be an
>     issue should it?
>
>     Thanks for the help
>
>     W0MU
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Wes Cosand
> 6299 Route 413
> PO Box 349
> Pipersville, PA 18947


From k1ttt at verizon.net  Tue Dec 20 07:37:10 2016
From: k1ttt at verizon.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:37:10 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
References: <f276fcc4-45d4-e809-88a2-38bd70cb67e7@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <00e101d25abd$c9658c80$5c30a580$@verizon.net>

I found even an i5 that handled cw skimmer server ok was unable to handle
rtty skimmer server.  I run the rtty skimmer server on an i7 box all by
itself and even then it can run out of resources on a contest weekend.

One important setup for the cw skimmer server that isn't on the gui and has
to be edited in the ini file is the CwSegments list.  that gives the parts
of each band that should be cw, I don't think it will create decoders out of
those ranges even if the bandwidth covers them.  for instance the default
for 192khz sample rate on 20m is 14000-14150, so ssb above 14150 should not
affect it.  since 160m is less differentiated that some other bands the
default segment for it is 1800-2000 so noise or ssb or am anywhere in the
band will create decoders, you might want to scale that back so it only
tries to decode below 1850 or 1840.

Rtty skimmer server has the band scope so you can see where it is decoding
and what the rtty segments are inside of the total bandwidth on each band.
That can be handy to spot noise also, but of course you can't listen to it.
on both my cw and rtty skimmer server boxes I always run through cwsl_tee so
I can startup hdsdr to actually look in detail at the waterfalls of all the
bands and listen to things to identify them either as a real signals or some
kind of noise.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373


-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 02:47
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Couple of questions

I have a QSR1 and have broadcast band filter on my antenna which currently
is a Cushcraft R8 10-40m.  I am getting over 100 to 200 decoders on 160
cw???  Is there something I need to do with the receiver to adjust the noise
level or something?  I turned off 160 and then I started seeing decoders
popping on 15m and the band is dead. I restarted the QSR1 and that seemed to
stop the 15m issue but the 160 one continues to grow.

I attempted to run an RTTY skimmer on the same computer but it appears to be
under powered to handle the task.  It is an older quad core with 
16 GB of ram.  Adding in the RTTY component was killer.    I guess I 
will try one of my son's older gaming rigs which I think is an I7 and see if
that can handle the load.  I checked my ini files and they are in sync.  Is
there anything else to check before attempt to load up the other machine.  I
am using the 30 day trial of the the RTTYserver.  That should not be an
issue should it?

Thanks for the help

W0MU


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From aa4xx at bellsouth.net  Wed Dec 21 10:59:11 2016
From: aa4xx at bellsouth.net (Paul Stroud)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:59:11 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Increasing CW bandwidth with Skimmer Server with
	WIN8.1
Message-ID: <585AA6CF.3050907@bellsouth.net>

My apologies if this has been covered before.

I'm familiar with editing the .ini file to increase the 160M CW 
bandwidth with Skimmer Server
on my WIN7 laptop, but I can't find an .ini file in any of the skimmer 
folders on my WIN8.1
netbook.

I'd like to receive spots from 1.800-1.860 kHz, but am currently not 
getting any spots above
the default 1.840 kHz.

Any suggestions would be vm appreciated.

tnx es 73,  Paul   AA4XX

From k1ttt at verizon.net  Wed Dec 21 12:59:15 2016
From: k1ttt at verizon.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:59:15 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Increasing CW bandwidth with Skimmer Server
	with	WIN8.1
In-Reply-To: <585AA6CF.3050907@bellsouth.net>
References: <585AA6CF.3050907@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <015001d25bb3$f3ca9820$db5fc860$@verizon.net>

It should be something like:
C:\Users\k1ttt\AppData\Roaming\Afreet\Products\SkimSrv\SkimSrv.ini
But replace k1ttt with your user name.


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373



-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Paul Stroud
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 15:59
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Increasing CW bandwidth with Skimmer Server with
WIN8.1

My apologies if this has been covered before.

I'm familiar with editing the .ini file to increase the 160M CW bandwidth
with Skimmer Server on my WIN7 laptop, but I can't find an .ini file in any
of the skimmer folders on my WIN8.1 netbook.

I'd like to receive spots from 1.800-1.860 kHz, but am currently not getting
any spots above the default 1.840 kHz.

Any suggestions would be vm appreciated.

tnx es 73,  Paul   AA4XX
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From n6tv at arrl.net  Wed Dec 21 22:38:55 2016
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:38:55 -0800
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Increasing CW bandwidth with Skimmer Server with
	WIN8.1
In-Reply-To: <015001d25bb3$f3ca9820$db5fc860$@verizon.net>
References: <585AA6CF.3050907@bellsouth.net>
	<015001d25bb3$f3ca9820$db5fc860$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGKzpZYcCb=Kh2AdFw6aR7gy1HkvpsfLwF=JAwGTfyYxHw@mail.gmail.com>

Even better, just copy and paste the following into a File | Open dialog
for your favorite text editor:

%appdata%\Afreet\Products\SkimSrv\SkimSrv.ini

This works no matter what userid you use.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Robbins <k1ttt at verizon.net> wrote:

> It should be something like:
> C:\Users\k1ttt\AppData\Roaming\Afreet\Products\SkimSrv\SkimSrv.ini
> But replace k1ttt with your user name.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul Stroud
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 15:59
> To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [Skimmertalk] Increasing CW bandwidth with Skimmer Server with
> WIN8.1
>
> My apologies if this has been covered before.
>
> I'm familiar with editing the .ini file to increase the 160M CW bandwidth
> with Skimmer Server on my WIN7 laptop, but I can't find an .ini file in any
> of the skimmer folders on my WIN8.1 netbook.
>
> I'd like to receive spots from 1.800-1.860 kHz, but am currently not
> getting
> any spots above the default 1.840 kHz.
>
> Any suggestions would be vm appreciated.
>
> tnx es 73,  Paul   AA4XX
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>
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From aa4xx at bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 22 09:19:13 2016
From: aa4xx at bellsouth.net (Paul Stroud)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:19:13 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Resolved Problem Increasing CW bandwidth with
 Skimmer Server with WIN8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAOmNKGKzpZYcCb=Kh2AdFw6aR7gy1HkvpsfLwF=JAwGTfyYxHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <585AA6CF.3050907@bellsouth.net>
	<015001d25bb3$f3ca9820$db5fc860$@verizon.net>
	<CAOmNKGKzpZYcCb=Kh2AdFw6aR7gy1HkvpsfLwF=JAwGTfyYxHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <585BE0E1.2020702@bellsouth.net>

Thanks to all who responded, which got me on the right track.

As it turned out, Windows was hiding my \appdata\ folder by default, so 
I unhid it and was then able
to get to access the folders leading to the SkimSrv.ini file.

73,
Paul  AA4XX

On 12/21/2016 10:38 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
> Even better, just copy and paste the following into a File | Open 
> dialog for your favorite text editor:
>
> %appdata%\Afreet\Products\SkimSrv\SkimSrv.ini
>
> This works no matter what userid you use.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>


From kazeringue at aol.com  Fri Dec 23 17:50:05 2016
From: kazeringue at aol.com (kazeringue at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 17:50:05 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Red Pitaya skimmer - Update #3
Message-ID: <f3419b22-d575-c5dd-b0af-bcdad7d7aaf1@aol.com>

I received a comment from Pavel Demin today that all of his SDR 
applications for Red Pitaya have been updated and they should now 
function with v0.96 and 0.97 of the Red Pitaya ecosystem.  Have not 
tested/migrated yet.  Using the older OS is not a large issue, but good 
to know if you are building a new OS ecosystem for RP.
reference to October's post on issue:
http://dayton.contesting.com/pipermail/skimmertalk/2016-October/001801.html

Otherwise the Red Pitaya seems to be doing a good job as skimmer.  K2AV 
can put a signal in here as high as 60db with no intermod products seen 
on HPSDR spectrum display.  On skimm server it also is reporting RBN SNR 
  with levels more consistent than the softrock skimmer system produced.

Have NOT yet experimented further with input transformer variations, nor 
used a signal generator to find the maximum effective SNR.

73 de w4kaz


From k1ttt at verizon.net  Sat Dec 24 07:21:38 2016
From: k1ttt at verizon.net (David Robbins)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:21:38 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Red Pitaya skimmer - Update #3
In-Reply-To: <f3419b22-d575-c5dd-b0af-bcdad7d7aaf1@aol.com>
References: <f3419b22-d575-c5dd-b0af-bcdad7d7aaf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <025a01d25de0$47aaa970$d6fffc50$@verizon.net>

On the red pitaya skimmer... I'm using one for rtty skimmer server and
wanted to be able to switch bands using the rbn aggregator, but whenever it
tries to switch the skimmer crashes.  I can't tell if it is the skimmer
server or the hermes interface or cwsl_tee, does anyone have that function
of the aggregator working with the red pitaya?

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373



-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
kazeringue--- via Skimmertalk
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 22:50
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Red Pitaya skimmer - Update #3

I received a comment from Pavel Demin today that all of his SDR applications
for Red Pitaya have been updated and they should now function with v0.96 and
0.97 of the Red Pitaya ecosystem.  Have not tested/migrated yet.  Using the
older OS is not a large issue, but good to know if you are building a new OS
ecosystem for RP.
reference to October's post on issue:
http://dayton.contesting.com/pipermail/skimmertalk/2016-October/001801.html

Otherwise the Red Pitaya seems to be doing a good job as skimmer.  K2AV can
put a signal in here as high as 60db with no intermod products seen on HPSDR
spectrum display.  On skimm server it also is reporting RBN SNR
  with levels more consistent than the softrock skimmer system produced.

Have NOT yet experimented further with input transformer variations, nor
used a signal generator to find the maximum effective SNR.

73 de w4kaz

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From drew at whisperingwoods.org  Sat Dec 24 15:52:48 2016
From: drew at whisperingwoods.org (=?windows-1252?Q?Drew_Vonada-Smith?=)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:52:48 -0600
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Multiple QS1R
Message-ID: <zarafa.585ee020.0d7e.190b478f7c87d957@ent.whisperingwoods.org>

Has anyone setup two QS1R units and two instances of SkimmerServer on a PC?  I have the two software instances installed OK, I believe.  Two QS1R units show up in device manager, but I only see one RX to select in SkimmerServer.

73,
Drew K3PA


From G0ORH at sky.com  Sat Dec 24 16:10:01 2016
From: G0ORH at sky.com (Ken Chandler)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 21:10:01 +0000
Subject: [Skimmertalk] QSR1 replacement
Message-ID: <6B37143F-EB5F-48CB-84D6-6CD3E3186085@sky.com>

Hi Guys,
Seasons greetings.

Has anyone heard any news on the long awaited replacement for the QSR1 !!

Ken.. G0ORH - M3i

Sent from my iPad


From k3ukandy at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 16:12:33 2016
From: k3ukandy at gmail.com (Andrew O'Brien)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 16:12:33 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] QSR1 replacement
In-Reply-To: <6B37143F-EB5F-48CB-84D6-6CD3E3186085@sky.com>
References: <6B37143F-EB5F-48CB-84D6-6CD3E3186085@sky.com>
Message-ID: <CAKpk-KOBQHapFj-XLEqgj-r6Btp_TupUgdJFLHb5VCO-wUFatg@mail.gmail.com>

supposedly 10 bands at same time, around US$500.  Not "out" yet.
Andy K3UK

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Ken Chandler <G0ORH at sky.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> Seasons greetings.
>
> Has anyone heard any news on the long awaited replacement for the QSR1 !!
>
> Ken.. G0ORH - M3i
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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From chriskl9a at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 21:19:11 2016
From: chriskl9a at gmail.com (Chris Hurlbut)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 19:19:11 -0700
Subject: [Skimmertalk] HDSDR - More Bandwidth?
Message-ID: <CAJAZ8=7WnowPd4XOpQZyQhGQabxVvpFf37NGgbvV41DJ0mo7xw@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible to receive more than 24khz in CW Skimmer using a VAC from
HDSDR or a similar program?

Using HDSDR and an RSP2 Pro feeding Skimmer.

Thanks,
Chris KL9A

From n6tv at arrl.net  Mon Dec 26 02:37:46 2016
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:37:46 -0800
Subject: [Skimmertalk] HDSDR - More Bandwidth?
In-Reply-To: <CAJAZ8=7WnowPd4XOpQZyQhGQabxVvpFf37NGgbvV41DJ0mo7xw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJAZ8=7WnowPd4XOpQZyQhGQabxVvpFf37NGgbvV41DJ0mo7xw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGLNo_SFifAT6zyFjkiv_=t9D7Z-+kq1dw+wrB8mYpfR=Q@mail.gmail.com>

48 kHz max.

See https://sites.google.com/site/g4zfqradio/hdsdr-
cwskimmer-and-Other-Digimodes

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Chris Hurlbut <chriskl9a at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it possible to receive more than 24khz in CW Skimmer using a VAC from
> HDSDR or a similar program?
>
> Using HDSDR and an RSP2 Pro feeding Skimmer.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris KL9A
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>

From n4zr at comcast.net  Thu Dec 29 21:27:10 2016
From: n4zr at comcast.net (Pete Smith N4ZR)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Red Pitaya skimmer - Update #3
In-Reply-To: <025a01d25de0$47aaa970$d6fffc50$@verizon.net>
References: <f3419b22-d575-c5dd-b0af-bcdad7d7aaf1@aol.com>
	<025a01d25de0$47aaa970$d6fffc50$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <6e5f008e-a20a-7daf-93f3-392df3d0659a@comcast.net>

Suggest you ask VE3NEA - I do know that RTTY Skimserv is a different 
creature but have not tried it on a Red Pitaya yet.

73, Pete N4ZR
Download the new N1MM Logger+ at
<http://N1MM.hamdocs.com>. Check
out the Reverse Beacon Network at
<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/24/2016 7:21 AM, David Robbins wrote:
> On the red pitaya skimmer... I'm using one for rtty skimmer server and
> wanted to be able to switch bands using the rbn aggregator, but whenever it
> tries to switch the skimmer crashes.  I can't tell if it is the skimmer
> server or the hermes interface or cwsl_tee, does anyone have that function
> of the aggregator working with the red pitaya?
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> kazeringue--- via Skimmertalk
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 22:50
> To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [Skimmertalk] Red Pitaya skimmer - Update #3
>
> I received a comment from Pavel Demin today that all of his SDR applications
> for Red Pitaya have been updated and they should now function with v0.96 and
> 0.97 of the Red Pitaya ecosystem.  Have not tested/migrated yet.  Using the
> older OS is not a large issue, but good to know if you are building a new OS
> ecosystem for RP.
> reference to October's post on issue:
> http://dayton.contesting.com/pipermail/skimmertalk/2016-October/001801.html
>
> Otherwise the Red Pitaya seems to be doing a good job as skimmer.  K2AV can
> put a signal in here as high as 60db with no intermod products seen on HPSDR
> spectrum display.  On skimm server it also is reporting RBN SNR
>    with levels more consistent than the softrock skimmer system produced.
>
> Have NOT yet experimented further with input transformer variations, nor
> used a signal generator to find the maximum effective SNR.
>
> 73 de w4kaz
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>


From wes.cosand at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 11:22:39 2016
From: wes.cosand at gmail.com (Wes Cosand)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:22:39 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] How much preamp gain for QS1R?
Message-ID: <CAEZgdkZrROsQWg=g-C5TrphOmq4csXOibGCG+8qmT2HcHZ-A3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a good rule for deciding how much preamp gain one needs
for the CW and RTTY Skimmer servers on the QS1R?

What noise floor is sufficient when you look with SDRmax and what level of
signals from the broadcast stations persuades you to stick an attenuator in
the line?

Wes WZ7I

From n4zr at comcast.net  Fri Dec 30 21:34:54 2016
From: n4zr at comcast.net (Pete Smith N4ZR)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:34:54 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] How much preamp gain for QS1R?
In-Reply-To: <CAEZgdkZrROsQWg=g-C5TrphOmq4csXOibGCG+8qmT2HcHZ-A3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEZgdkZrROsQWg=g-C5TrphOmq4csXOibGCG+8qmT2HcHZ-A3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc02e57e-d54e-12ef-770b-f1929f593a3f@comcast.net>

Hi Wes - my only suggestion would be to not use an attenuator to handle 
broadcast stations (unless you mean HF broadcast).  I use a Clifton Labs 
high-pass which did a fine job of stopping BC clipping on my QS1R.

73, Pete N4ZR
Download the new N1MM Logger+ at
<http://N1MM.hamdocs.com>. Check
out the Reverse Beacon Network at
<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/30/2016 11:22 AM, Wes Cosand wrote:
> Does anyone have a good rule for deciding how much preamp gain one needs
> for the CW and RTTY Skimmer servers on the QS1R?
>
> What noise floor is sufficient when you look with SDRmax and what level of
> signals from the broadcast stations persuades you to stick an attenuator in
> the line?
>
> Wes WZ7I
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk
>


From wes.cosand at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 08:10:23 2016
From: wes.cosand at gmail.com (Wes Cosand)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:10:23 -0500
Subject: [Skimmertalk] How much preamp gain for QS1R?
In-Reply-To: <fc02e57e-d54e-12ef-770b-f1929f593a3f@comcast.net>
References: <CAEZgdkZrROsQWg=g-C5TrphOmq4csXOibGCG+8qmT2HcHZ-A3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc02e57e-d54e-12ef-770b-f1929f593a3f@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEZgdkYaj3NQkFYJSW4p7LQDAEFR6bAVrZu2zXo5-C1gg=uKUQ@mail.gmail.com>

I did some experiments yesterday running two QS1R's, both with DX
Engineering 16db preamps with varying amounts of attenuation.  With the
current conditions with my antennas 20 meters and higher needed most of the
preamp gain to hear some of the stations.

Wes WZ7I

From ndai at cameo.plala.or.jp  Sat Dec 31 08:48:59 2016
From: ndai at cameo.plala.or.jp (Dai NAGAKURA)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:48:59 +0900
Subject: [Skimmertalk] How much preamp gain for QS1R?
In-Reply-To: <CAEZgdkYaj3NQkFYJSW4p7LQDAEFR6bAVrZu2zXo5-C1gg=uKUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fc02e57e-d54e-12ef-770b-f1929f593a3f@comcast.net>
	<CAEZgdkYaj3NQkFYJSW4p7LQDAEFR6bAVrZu2zXo5-C1gg=uKUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20161231224854.3D16.272C9EF@cameo.plala.or.jp>

de JF2IWL 

I use normal +20dB preamp plus Diamond Antenna's DMAX50 Preamp.
http://www.diamond-ant.co.jp/english/amateur/antenna/ante_7rec.html
It can vary gain from (-)20dB to (+)20dB.

My conclusion is that  around +30dB is the best for QS1R decodes
in my environment.
I insert W3NQN BC Band rejector and RF guard before these.

Well known that  Decord ability is increasing function of 
decorder number,
but It's difficult to seek and determine the best position
considering noise ,S/N and so on.

Wish little early HNY to skimmer members from JA.
Dai JF2IWL


On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:10:23 -0500
Wes Cosand <wes.cosand at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did some experiments yesterday running two QS1R's, both with DX
> Engineering 16db preamps with varying amounts of attenuation.  With the
> current conditions with my antennas 20 meters and higher needed most of the
> preamp gain to hear some of the stations.
> 
> Wes WZ7I
> _______________________________________________
> Skimmertalk mailing list
> Skimmertalk at contesting.com
> http://dayton.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/skimmertalk

-- 
Dai NAGAKURA <ndai at cameo.plala.or.jp>


From wa7lnw at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 13:13:58 2016
From: wa7lnw at gmail.com (Jack Reed)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:13:58 -0700
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Location for Contest.ini file
Message-ID: <CAEzoOtbfvrcEGPVgjiaowds5M9UD024B-VTHcFOzC015KiBEUw@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure where to place the Contest.ini file so  it appears when you select
the Contest.ini edit button.

I would appreciate if someone is willing to share a screen shot of their
RTTYSkimSrvr.ini configuration and Contest.ini file.

Thank you,

Jack, WA7LNW

From n6tv at arrl.net  Sat Dec 31 17:17:19 2016
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:17:19 -0800
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Location for Contest.ini file
In-Reply-To: <CAEzoOtbfvrcEGPVgjiaowds5M9UD024B-VTHcFOzC015KiBEUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEzoOtbfvrcEGPVgjiaowds5M9UD024B-VTHcFOzC015KiBEUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGLsJj1P0ptjTEveMuMAQSUpatNT4zKJZ=fXWAGva4GCHA@mail.gmail.com>

>From an old private email from VE3NEA:

"On the versions of Windows before Vista, RttySkimServer loads its ini file
from its installation folder, which is by default under C:\Program
Files\Afreet\. On the later versions of Windows, the RttySkimServer.ini is
loaded from  %appdata%\Afreet\Products\RttySkimServ\.

The Contests.ini file is located in %appdata%\Afreet\Products\RttySkimServ
on all versions of Windows."

%appdata% is a Windows environment variable that you can specify in Windows
Explorer, a File Open dialog, or a Windows Command Prompt.  It
automatically expands to the correct folder, based on your login ID, e.g.
on Windows 7, %appdata% is equivalent to:

C:\Users\*userid*\AppData\Roaming

My .INI files are attached, but set for 48 kHz limited use because of my
slow CPU (and it's Windows XP).

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Jack Reed <wa7lnw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not sure where to place the Contest.ini file so  it appears when you select
> the Contest.ini edit button.
>
> I would appreciate if someone is willing to share a screen shot of their
> RTTYSkimSrvr.ini configuration and Contest.ini file.
>
> Thank you,
>
>