[Skimmertalk] Building Authentication and Auditing into the Growthof Skimmers and RBNs

[Henk Remijn PA5KT]

But: in all cases it depends on the person using the skimmer in a 
regular way.

Those contesters being honest will register themselves, the cheaters 
will not register, they create their own skimmers, work together with 
non-contesting skimmer owners etc. etc.

73 Henk PA5KT.

John Pescatore schreef:
> I think the biggest issue is authentication. First of those connecting  
> to skimmers, but also of those running public skimmers.
>
> Next is audit trail of connections in a standardized manner then some  
> thought into the protocols to be used as skimmer nodes turn into  
> networks and them those networks interconnect.
> The audit trail assures that data will available and usable by contest  
> sponsors.
>
> As I said below, Echolink put some thought into much of this and have  
> been using a decent level of security to keep that from turning into a  
> swamp.
>
> Regards, John P.
>
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:21 PM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> The biggest issues is making sure that the RBN does not infused with  
>> the DX
>> clusters or those clusters that do not want this service.
>>
>> VE7CC is looking for at a solution that would allow node owners to  
>> chose to
>> post the RNB/skimmer spots to their local nodes and not have the  
>> spots sent
>> to the rest of the network and then allow the individual users to  
>> determine
>> which spots they want.
>>
>> I am not sure what security is needed here as you have to want to  
>> get the
>> spots you need to connect to get them.  It is not up to Skimmer or  
>> RBN to
>> determine who may or may not be claiming the proper class in contests.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CC Packet Cluster W0MU-1
>> W0MU.NET or  67.40.148.194
>>
>> "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue  
>> you may
>> never get over." Ben Franklin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of jpescatore at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:00 PM
>> To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: [Skimmertalk] Building Authentication and Auditing into the
>> Growthof Skimmers and RBNs
>>
>>
>> Below is a reply I made to the earlier thread on CQ-CONTEST that Tom  
>> or John
>> or whoever is actually moderating bounced to Skimmertalk.
>>
>>
>> There's no need to try to build perfect security in as skimmer  
>> networks
>> mature, but it is really important not to just repeat the mistakes  
>> made with
>> the way Packetcluster grew.
>>
>>
>> But this is the right time in Skimmer software and system  
>> development to be
>> building in some security mechanisms. If in 1980 or so Dick Newell  
>> could
>> have imagined what the global Packetcluster monster looks like  
>> today, a lot
>> of access control features could have been baked in early on.  
>> Doesn't even
>> have to be Draconian - what Echolink has built in from nearly day 1  
>> is a
>> good simple starting point.
>>
>> 73 John K3TN
>>
>>
>> Pete said:
>>
>>     
>>> Ah, I understand your point now, Luc. At the moment, it is no more,
>>> and no less secure than existing dx cluaster nodes. But remember,  
>>> this
>>> is an early experimnent. At this point, we're not even sure that it
>>> will be left on for major contest weekends.
>>>       
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>       
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