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Re: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle

To: Mike Dishop <n8wff@yahoo.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle
From: "Silevitch, Michael" <m.silevitch@northeastern.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:18:17 +0000
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Bravo Mike!!!!!!!

Regards
    Michael K1PEV

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:29 AM, Mike Dishop via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> OK, there is complaints that I don't communicate directly with you.  Let me 
> see if I can actually post on the reflector correctly.  I'm afraid I work 
> very hard each day and don't have time to make posts and things like this so 
> I don't quite know how to reply to a thread, but here goes.  Something you 
> might keep in mind is if one of you make an ass out of yourself on a 
> reflector it doesn't do anything but make you look stupid. Anything I say 
> however will be taken out of context and distorted by some person to try to 
> shed a bad light on me or the company.  I have a number of people working for 
> me who depend on this for their livelihood. Please think about what damage 
> you are doing when you spread outright lies that Ten Tec or Alpha is out of 
> business.  We have been open and working since I purchased the companies. 
> Hundreds of radios have been repaired, including radios that were piled up 
> and unrepaired by the previous owners.  Even the backlog at Alpha has been 
> mostly cleared except for a few 87A's which are very difficult to get parts 
> for.  Alpha is producing amplifiers entirely in house now and has nothing but 
> satisfied owners since I assumed control of the company.  If anyone wants a 
> brand new 9500, I've got one sitting on the shelf waiting for you. We are 
> caught up on ALL amplifier back orders.  I've spent a lot of time getting 
> critical and long lead components back in stock. For example, the ceramic 
> plate choke and 160m coil form provider went out of business and didn't tell 
> us.  This week we are receiving brand new designed ceramic coil forms which 
> is about the last specialty item I've had to clear up. The good news?  We 
> designed it in such a way that the TEN TEC roller inductor will now have a 
> ceramic coil form instead of the grooved fiberglass which is the FIRST step 
> to making more 238C antenna tuners!  So there are HUNDREDS of things 
> happening behind the scenes you don't know about and frankly you don't need 
> to know about.  We are doing what we need to do as fast as we can do it.  If 
> I publish everything I'm doing then competitors will think what a great idea 
> and run with it.  Think it won't happen?  I can name a dozen products it has 
> happened on but if I do I'll just be accused of lying or sour grapes. 
> First let me thank each of you who expressed well wishes for me and Ten Tec.  
> I'm sure I've alienated some of you and I apologize if I make anyone feel 
> bad, but frankly you have never stopped a single time to consider my 
> situation.  I want to address directly the do not contact me about service 
> for your amateur radio at Dishtronix.  First off, I answer my own telephone 
> unlike anyone else in the industry.  614 675 2497 is my direct line right to 
> my desk.  So let me ask you a question -  is My job to get Ten Tec healthy 
> and to get the company to a point where it can supply hundreds of radios 
> again?  Or should I spend my time trying to arrange a $5 dial string for some 
> obsolete radio sold to the three previous owners before you when I was ten 
> years old?  Now perhaps one phone call a day I can handle.  But how about ten 
> or twenty?  Especially when you want to talk to me for a half hour?  I'm not 
> in Tennessee. I'm in Ohio!  I have NO CLUE if they have a dial string or not. 
> It is very plainly stated to email them but despite the numerous postings 
> about it you continue to call me. When you look up the number right there on 
> the web it asks you to write Ten Tec but SOME of you just can't accept this 
> and call anyway, and wonder why I am irritated when you ask me about a dial 
> string.
> Let me ask you the same question. How many radios can the bench tech repair 
> if he is on the phone with ten people a half hour each per day?
> YES, TEN TEC HAS A TELEPHONE!  Do you want to know the real reason it isn't 
> published? THE BENCH TECHS SUGGESTED GETING RID OF THE PHONE SO THEY CAN 
> ACTUALLY FIX RADIOS.  There -  I've just gone ahead and said it. Now you know.
> Someone suggested I hire someone and pay them 12 dollars an hour to answer 
> the phone.  First off, get real.  You have forgotten the unemployment 
> insurance, state employers tax, federal employers tax, social security 
> withholding of 7.5% contribution by me. Add about 35-50 percent to that 
> figure and you see it is very close to 18 dollars an hour cost to me to pay a 
> man 12 dollars per hour.  Lets multiply that by 2080 hours in a year with no 
> benefits. It is close to 40 grand just to pay someone to talk to you about 
> service.  Now, just how many radios do you think we repair?  10 a week?  so 
> spend 40K for 500 radios is $80 per service call.  So instead of paying less 
> than $300 on an average repair not it cost $400.  Oh, that $25 dial string - 
> now it is $125.
> So you don't like my website. You don't like the grainy pictures that were 
> taken DIRECTLY from the RKR website.  You don't like that I don't update it. 
> You don't like that I don't have a professional advertising staff and a full 
> time webmaster... Well guess what.  ALL THAT TAKES MONEY THAT I DON"T HAVE 
> AND THAT YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR.  Please make your non-charitable donation 
> checks out to Dishtronix, Inc and mail to PO Box 1007 Bellefontaine, OH 
> 43311.  If 500 of you each send me a thousand dollars I can hire all these 
> people and get the new ham products out we are working on sooner.  All we 
> need is money. We have the skilled people, the technology, the machinery -  
> EVERYTHING we need but money.  Just wait until you see what we have planned 
> for you.
> Now I KNOW the above paragraph is going to really stir the pot.  There are 
> going to be those who are going to say why should we support you for free?  
> Allow me to ask an equivalent question.  If I subsidize Ten Tec and they 
> loose money, perhaps say on service, am I not extending charity to those of 
> you who get your radios repaired and dial strings?  Have I made my point?  
> Here are your alternatives in case you don't get it. I can close TEN TEC, 
> quit answering the phone and quit repairing radios.  If I do that I will get 
> the next radio out sooner because I won't have to deal with this sort of 
> gossip, rumors, lies, slander and negativity.  I won't have to answer the 
> phone about dial strings and tell you to follow the obvious established 
> procedure of emailing service@tentec.com.
> So we have speech processors for sale, 612s whatever those are, all kinds of 
> microphone cords and microphones and a whole bunch of the CW version Arduino 
> radio in stock.  We are working on the store.  It will be just like the Alpha 
> store.  We have that up and running. 
> Guess what else we have working in TN?  Anyone remember the missing WARC 
> bands in the Argonaut?  Well they are in there now.  I just need money to buy 
> the parts.  For every radio you can plan on needing about 100K investment in 
> rolling inventory of parts at all times. 
> In the last year TT has gone from outsourcing all their circuit board 
> manufacturing to returning it all in house under my roof. We built up a new 
> surface mount facility using the income from the RX340 contracts we fulfilled 
> last year that enabled TEN TEC to stay open. Please forgive me for doing what 
> I have to do to keep the doors at TEN TEC open, no matter how much you 
> disagree with me or my methods.
> What is the best website in the world and the glossiest advertising good for 
> if the doors close for good?  Who is going to repair your radios or supply 
> your dial strings then?   WHERE SHOULD I EXPEND MY LIMITED RESOURCES/  WHERE 
> WILL THEY DO THE MOST GOOD?
> Frankly it doesn't matter what I do with Ten Tec.  If I bring out a new 
> transceiver and you like it you will buy it. Except of course for the people 
> overheard saying they would never buy a TEN TEC or an Alpha again because the 
> future of the company is uncertain.  Yet Rick-UFO brings out a new QRP radio 
> from a group nobody has ever heard of, or somebody from China puts a cheap 
> amplifier on eBay and you fall all over yourselves to get one because it is 
> cheap.  Who cares that you never heard of them.  Who cares about service?  
> Witness the miracle of Baofeng and the WalMartization of America and the 
> decline of Western civilization and the abundant lifestyle.  It doesn't 
> matter how it sounds or how good it works, only that it is CHEAP.  I wish the 
> government would subsidize my R&D and supply me slave labor like SOME 
> companies benefit from. 
> How many of you have tried to get a 5 or ten year old transceiver repaired at 
> IcoYasWood?  Or get any kind of satisfaction out of them of any kind?  I 
> tried for a year to get through at one of the service departments for a 
> certain XX-100 radio that I bought new with a problem. It never was resolved. 
>  I finally got a service manual through my friend who I have no idea how he 
> managed to purchase it.
> We have repaired over FIVE HUNDRED transceivers and amplifiers this last 
> year.  Out of production Omni VI, Orion, Orion II, and supplied dial strings, 
> PTO rebuild kits, etc.  
> This is my 18th year in the ham radio business.  You can't find ONE person 
> who says I screwed them over or did not deliver what I guaranteed I would do. 
>  How many times do I see on this reflector someone complains about TT service 
> and ten people respond that their radio was repaired promptly, the price was 
> reasonable and the radio works?  Granted we don't get it right every single 
> time. Factory techs miss things too. We are all human and prone to error. 
> If you don't like how I'm handling things quit being part of the problem and 
> be part of the solution.  I hear all of this about how I should do this and 
> that. It is real easy to say that I should do this and this and that.  Or 
> that "all" I need to do is put this feature and this feature from that radio 
> over here and BINGO, there is the new product.  Speaking as a degreed 
> Electrical Engineer with about 45 years experience building electronics I can 
> tell you quite frankly if you make a statement like that you are telegraphing 
> to the world loud and clear that you have no idea how things work and that 
> you have never commercially taken an electronic product to market. At the 
> performance level we expect in modern equipment NOTHING is trivial.  These 
> high IP3 numbers don't happen by accident.   I can tell you that for every 
> circuit board in my Prometheus amp there were sometimes two dozen previous 
> circuit boards that worked 99%.  99% is easy. It is the 1% that kills you.
> Good is not good enough if you intend to be great.  Leave the engineering 
> decisions to the engineers is usually a good practice.  You wouldn't want me 
> to operate on you if you needed a kidney transplant would you?  Wouldn't you 
> want a real doctor?  Maybe even a specialist?
> Discussion of features and wants are welcome as long as the discussion is 
> constructive and positive.  If I communicate through third parties it MIGHT 
> be because they can say things that I can't.  I've got twenty bucks that says 
> at least one person is going to take what I've said out of context and try to 
> tear me to shreds for it.  This is exactly why I don't post in these things.  
> I would greatly appreciate those of you who when you hear some jackass 
> spreading lies saying TT or Alpha is out of business to set them straight. 
> these people are nothing but vicious trolls. It is called libel and it is a 
> civil offense. 
> Ten Tec is making radios. Alpha is making amplifiers. I offered to bring back 
> the Eagle because it is a good receiver that doesn't make your ears bleed. It 
> sounds good and you can listen to it for hours. It gives the production 
> people something to do and keeps them busy until the next great radio is 
> ready.  Maybe it enables us to build a supply line of parts that may be used 
> in the next great radio. Maybe we have a strategy and a reason for doing 
> things the way we are.
> As to the price, I tallied up what it takes for a K2, which uses the Jones 
> filter incidentally, to do full featured 100W 160-6 all modes and it is over 
> 2K.  So the Eagle which is also a single conversion receiver and comes fully 
> assembled and is also designed and made in America, and in my opinion sounds 
> better is priced less.  So please criticize my wonderful competitors equally.
> Here might be a reason for buying a radio.  Those who have Eagles keep them 
> because they like how they sound and how they receive.  That is why you buy 
> one, not because of the price.  You can drive a Rolls Royce or a Beetle. 
> Beetles are fun if you don't mind being cold in the winter. Frankly if the 
> difference between $1300 and $1700 is a major decision for you and you can't 
> spend $400 to have what you want, well maybe you should find a hobby you can 
> afford.  If you really can't afford that extra $400 you better dig deep and 
> buy the radio that the company will still service even after it has been out 
> of production just like we do every other Ten Tec because everything breaks 
> eventually, and when it does you will be thankful you bought ours because we 
> will still be here.  How many 40 year old Icoms are still on the air?  
> I challenge any one of you to do better. Put your money up and purchase the 
> company from me and you can do what you want with it. Until then I am very 
> sorry but somebody has to pay the bills and make the hard decisions and be 
> criticized for it. If you want that job you can have it. I'll come to work 
> for you. I'd love to have a steady paycheck and not have to deal with 
> negativity and vicious liars.  It isn't going to be cheap however.  Oh yes, 
> you know I can just give it all to the Chinese right?  They could probably 
> get you Eagles for $500.  What do you think that would do to the industry?  
> Why would anyone want to invent anything better if you can get it for free? 
> Hello Baofeng, anybody listening?  If money is all you judge a radio quality 
> by I can fix that.  Of course you'll have to say goodbye to dial strings and 
> PTOs forever. 
> 73 de N8WFF
> 
> 
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