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Re: [TenTec] Boards with obsolete parts

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Boards with obsolete parts
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:11:22 -0500
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When I was with a JA electronics company, {some 15 years} and one that made professional audio products and other things, we attempted to determine how many and which parts were required to support a product for 7 years once production was terminated. We purchased those items and quantities and put them in the parts center. If we were correct in our forcast then the product was supported for that period of time. In certain cases, we were wrong, and simply the parts were consumed before the period planned has expired. In many instances some of the parts were unique thus were totally manufactured by the company. In other cases the components were discontinued by the supplier/manufacturer. Bottom line, when parts are gone and the source dries up, that's it. Unless some enterprising sole chooses to go into the re-design or manufacturing business, likely one that is a hobby and most assuredly not profitable, just for gratification.

It is just basic business and we must understand that any business, to continue to exist, must at least break even or ideally make a profit. Yes, in the instance above, we could design a new PC board, populate it, test it and sell it. The question "will the consumer pay the price?" Likely not. The 2nd point, is the cost of repair in any dollar amount is it worth the investment in the product? As a point of economics, likely not. While some may say, hey design and manufacture a new replacement board and sell it to me at a reasonable cost. OK, so it is sold at a loss then where is the loss covered? It goes into the new merchandise cost and eventually to the consumer. The next question, will the consumer pay the new product cost at the current market. Competitively, not likely.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Hallas" <jrhallas@optonline.net>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Boards with obsolete parts


I can't disagree with Barry in principle, however, a really great company
that gives great service would, IMO, if an aftermarket redesigned PC board
were available, either:

1. Resell them to customers who need one, including perform repairs using
the boards -- good biz and good PR, or at the very least,
2. Point users who need such repairs to the provider.

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 5:31 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 40m BCI and Ten-Tec vs. Elecraft

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Haigwood <jerry@w5jh.net> wrote:

  I contacted TenTec to see what fixes they may have for the display
logic board.  Paul informed me they don't have any fixes for this board.
Paul also stated that the Corsair II was so old that it is not worth
fixing and he does not recommend sending it to TenTec for repair.
Well, so much for that great TenTec support we have all been discussing.


It's clearly not economically feasible for Ten-Tec to invest engineering
resources in designing a work-around for parts that are no longer available
in a 25 year-old radio.  I might not like it but I wouldn't blame any
company taking that position.

Barry N1EU
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