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Re: [TenTec] Radial Research

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Radial Research
From: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:37:04 -0500
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Billy,
If you view Rudy's excellent power point and look at the pictures, you find that Rudy uses symmetric radials as is usually done with verticals when there is adequate room. His site has a uniform layout in all directions, so local earth differences and coupling are minimized. His measurement tools are often home made or basic, ie the radial current transformer is simple to replicate with circuit board soldered together, hobby copper tubing (or brass), and a core suited for the band being tested. A relative voltage is developed which represents current in the radial being measured. HP RF millivoltmeters are commonly available to hams from surplus sources at reasonable prices. These are good for reading the voltages developed from transforming radial current.

I see nothing exotic needed in instruments if symmetry and good practices in vertical antenna construction are followed. 20 MHz oscilloscopes are common and reasonably priced, and would also also suffice for voltage measurements for the lower bands.

Back before WW2, hams were measuring radial and feed line currents with thermocouple RF current meters and they are adequate for work at 40m and below today as well, and likely most are marked as good up to 20 MHz, thus good for at least 20m and as relative indicators somewhat beyond. They can be used in opposite pairs of radials to preserve symmetry and detect any relative radial current variation other than that of the measurement device. Most would require use of a transmitter as your signal generator, but some exist that have a 0 to 1 Amp RF scale.

The modeling studies of L.B. Cebik, W4RNL, show that differences in which place you feed an antenna can alter the pattern slightly. (Such as on a symmetric Horizontal Loop).

If your local soil varies so much that your radial currents are not balanced, the effect will likewise alter your pattern, but that does not prevent the vertical from working as expected, it just may favor one direction over another, slightly.

The variations in the propagation has a much greater effect on the signal and for that we have no control, once the signal leaves the antenna. Most of the signal influence once radiated depends on the earth out beyond the Fresnel Zone, some 5 wavelengths beyond the antenna location and usually out of the ham's control as to what is on the earth at that distance---buildings, ponds, different terrain or elevation.

Extensive radial systems are needed at AM band because their main interest is a nice controlled ground wave pattern to cover their intended broadcast area, and nulls in the directions of any co channel station to which they might cause interference.

Hams on the other hand have different concerns in their main use of sky wave signals.

-Stuart
K5KVH

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