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Re: [TenTec] ant

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] ant
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:52:21 -0600
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In Germany that coil tubing was probably 6 or 8 mm diameter. Practically 1/4 or 5/16" diameter. I just checked a couple banana plugs and jacks. I get 0.145" as the smallest rigid diameter of the plug and about 0.151" as the ID of the banana jack which is close to 4mm (0.1575") and measuring with a dial caliper in that small a hole is subject to error. I'm sure a vendor of banana jacks like Keystone Electronics will be more specific about that diameter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_connector says the banana plug and jack is a German invention and IS 4mm diameter.

Checking two handy vintage meters with drill bit shanks. The B&K DVM jacks take a 0.159, won't take a 0.161. Must be about 0.160 like some Pomona jacks I found dimensioned on line. My older Simpson 260 series 5 takes 0.157 snugly, not 0.159 in a jack that's rarely been used. Fortunately the banana plug has a large range of sizes it will fit, part of its fundamental design if its a true banana. There have been more solid plugs that are split four ways that aren't as tolerant of jack dimensions.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

On 1/14/2011 7:08 PM, Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP wrote:
Well guys, Jerry probably touched on the most important factor here.
The doggone manufacturers somehow assumed we wanted everything smaller and
smaller and so they compromised performance for size.

In Germany about 30 years ago a very good OM put forth a scheme for doing it
right.
He is an SK now.
Arno (DL9AH) suggested making a very large coil out of thick copper tubing,
about 1/4 inch thick.
It was a monster.
Ok, this is overkill, but he did it for another reason.
He then drilled holes (I'll pick a number) "3mm" in diameter into every
winding.
A typical banana plug would fit snugly into these holes.
Thus you were able to tap anywhere you wanted, just as Jerry suggested,
using clips.

These things had about as close to zero loss as you could have.

Would make a lot of sense using a circuit based on the K1JJ design.

Measure the correct diameter of the banana plug.  My "3mm" was just an
example.

73
Rick



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Subject: Re: [TenTec] ant

My bad - I did mean polystyrene, but I was under the impression
the Airdux coil had a denser plastic.


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