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Re: [TenTec] PTO Backlash help needed

To: wa3fiy@radioadv.com, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] PTO Backlash help needed
From: Tom NØJMY <n0jmy@hayseedhamfest.com>
Reply-to: n0jmy@hayseedhamfest.com, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:34:19 -0500
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Thank you very much, Lee. That gives me some things to think about. I've accumulated four of these rigs and have finally decided to spiff them up. So far I've removed three of the PTO's and have found none with felt washers yet, though the PTO rebuild instructions do mention them (possibly on other models I suppose). There's sure no reason not to try them on a C-21, though. I'll give that a shot.

As you said, adjusting the bearing plate on the back, hasn't yielded much, backlash-wise.

I'm curious as to how that "backlash rod" functions, in fact, just what its function is. I'm intrigued especially about the purpose of the little wedge shaped piece that rides on the rod and butts up against the pistol. Maybe you might enlighten me?

I agree with your comparison between the C-21 and my other favorite, the HW-16. In fact, one of these Centuries is traded for some HW-16's.

Entertaining and informative, indeed! Someone must have hijacked my call again.

73,
Tom NØJMY .   .


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wa3fiy@radioadv.com wrote:
Hi Tom. Welcome. Good to see you here. I greatly enjoy your entertaining and informative posts to GlowBugs. :-)

To your question. I'm no expert on the matter but I think the unidirectional backlash is due to a spring being compressed when you turn the tuning knob CCW. That spring pressure is pushing back against the "pistol" and trying to turn the Acme screw thread. This is a case where you want a little more friction in the system. Try loosening the main tuning knob and see if there is a felt washer or two between the knob and the 0-100 dial plate. If not you need one or two, can't recall what TT uses. Hold slight pressure on the knob, compressing the felt washer slightly, as you tighten the setscrew. That will provide some friction between the knob and dial plate which turn at different rates. Play with that and see what you get.

There is a plastic bearing on the back end of the PTO enclosure which is spaced from the enclusre by one or more flat washers under the two fixing screws. That spacing adjusts spring pressure on the screw thread which in turn adjusts the pressure on the ball drive. I sometimes play with that spacing as well but I think it has more to do with eliminating slippage in the ball drive than in minimizing backlash.

Good luck. The Century 21 is an interesting rig. Sort of solid state HW-16, but not quite. :-)

73,
-Lee-
WA3FIY


On 29 May 2009 at 20:05, Tom NØJMY wrote:

Hello.  New member here.  I have some Century 21's here which seem to
all exhibit dial backlash (maybe I should call it knob backlash) when
turning the tuning knob counter-clockwise.  The closer you get to the
CCW end of the dial travel the worse the backlash becomes.  There is no
backlash when turning the knob clockwise.

I've read quite a bit about dial slippage and rebuilding the PTO in the
C-21, but these units have all been cleaned and lubricated, turn freely,
and there is no dial slippage.

Have any of you fellows run into this problem?  Is this an inherent
characteristic of the C-21 PTO, or is it a problem that can be fixed?

Thanks in advance,

Tom, NØJMY .  .

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