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Re: [TenTec] Purpose of 250 Hz 8 pole filters

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Purpose of 250 Hz 8 pole filters
From: Kevin Purcell <kevinpurcell@pobox.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:28:24 -0700
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People interested in this might find this paper interesting: The Weak- Signal Capability of the Human Ear by
Ray Soifer, W2RS

<http://www.g1ogy.com/www.n1bug.net/tech/w2rs/humanear.html>
<http://www.g1ogy.com/www.n1bug.net/tech/w2rs/The%20Human%20Ear.pdf>

The AMSAT ZRO Tests, in which several hundred amateurs participated in a controlled experiment over more than seven years, established that many good operators, approximately the top quartile of test participants, were able to copy by ear a sequence of five random digits at a key-down SNR of –3.6 dB in a noise bandwidth of 100 Hz, with a few (4%) able to reach –6.6 dB. The median participant required a SNR of –0.6 dB. Given the test conditions, these findings are considered to be accurate plus/minus approximately 3 dB. A study of the W2RS 144 MHz EME log from 1985 to 1995, when the author operated with 150W output to a single Yagi antenna, yielded fairly comparable
results.

The W2RS EME log also shows that in prearranged schedules, when operators know what they are listening for, contacts were completed with SNRs at least 3 dB lower than was possible in random operation. Only four stations could be worked on random, out of 37 worked in total. For a good weak-signal operator in a prearranged EME schedule, copy by ear down to –6 or –7 dB key-down SNR in a 100 Hz bandwidth, equivalent to –23 or –24 dB average at 2.5 kHz, would not be unreasonable to expect
(again, plus/minus approximately 3 dB).

Signal-processing techniques developed by SM5BSZ and WB9UWA may be able to improve upon the performance of the unaided ear by as much as 2-3 dB, depending
upon the characteristics of the received signals.

Note SNR is a little different from "normal":

we must define what we mean by SNR.  While
any definition would probably suffice as long as it is properly specified, this paper will, unless otherwise noted, follow the commonly-used convention in EME work of specifying SNR as the ratio of key-down signal to average noise level, in the absence of signal, in an effective noise bandwidth of 100 Hz. (Note that this is S/N, not (S+N)/N.) Since the Morse code duty cycle is approximately 50%, it is assumed here that the average SNR, as is measured by some software and test equipment, will be 3 dB below
key-down SNR for the same signal strength and noise level.

A wave file of the ZRO tests is out there if you want to "play along" (though at 4kHz sample rate and, worse, 8 bit resolution is still on the net it is not the best -- you can really hear the quantization noise).

He also comments that this works for SSB too. Good perceptual filtering is not just for CW :-)

[] two SSB QSOs with W5UN, which were completed despite predicted SNRs
of –7.4 and –10.7 dB, respectively (at the receiver’s bandwidth of 2.1 kHz), demonstrate that the adaptive power of the human ear to pull weak signals out of the noise is not limited to CW. Although good libration peaks helped, in order to complete the contacts under these conditions the ear’s effective noise bandwidth had to be significantly less
than 2.1 kHz

SM5BSZ (another VHFweak signal/EMEer) makes some interesting comments in:

<http://www.nitehawk.com/sm5bsz/weakcom.htm>

3. If the bandwidth is too large, above 1kHz, the "signal processor" between my ears gets overloaded and a significant loss of performance occurs.

4. Only at bandwidths below about 50 Hz I can get any improvement over what I get at 1kHz - but only at slow or moderate CW speeds, and with signals that are very frequency stable. This indicates that my "brain bandwidth" is about 50 Hz. I can work for much longer times without loss of performance when the bandwidth is low. I practically never use bandwidths above 100 Hz.

On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Steve Hunt wrote:

Many, many years ago I was involved in the design of a "survivable"
military ComSat system that would provide a low bit-rate channel under
heavy jamming conditions. We set ourselves the target that it should do as well as a good CW operator under the same S/No conditions. That meant
we had to "measure" the performance of the CW operator.

We took 3 very experienced operators - the sort that copy 25wpm random 5 letter groups whilst doing the Times cryptic crossword at the same time
(I'm not kidding). We gave them the best receivers available at the
time, equipped with a vast array of filters.

I was fascinated as a young engineer to see that they never used the
narrowest filters, however poor the S/No. They rarely went below 1KHz. I
guess they had some pretty narrowband stuff going on in their heads :)
And by the way, the set a pretty tough target to beat!

Steve G3TXQ

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73 DE N7WIM / G8UDP
Kevin Purcell
kevinpurcell@pobox.com




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