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Re: [TenTec] serious filter problem with Orion II

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] serious filter problem with Orion II
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Reply-to: Ron Castro <ronc@sonic.net>,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:51:16 -0800
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Tonno:  I sounds like there may be a problem in your radio.  I am using my 
Orion II with 2.037j in the 160 meter contest this weekend with NR and NB 
with BW down to 100 Hz with no problem.  Maybe reloading the firmware or a 
master reset will cure the problem, but if not, you may have to send it to 
the factory.

I am familiar with the S-meter problem.  In most cases, you need to subtract 
about 20 dB for signals showing more than +30, and add 2 S-units to signals 
less than S-7.  You can see the chart I made using an HP 8640B signal 
generator at my website www.n6ie.com.  This discrepancy is probably a result 
of the new dual-loop AGC scheme in version 2, and can be fixed in the 
firmware, or if Ten Tec wants to take a 'low tech' approach, by making a new 
replacement face for the S-meter with the right calibrations.  The could fix 
the power output calibration on the meter that way too!

      Ron N6IE
 www.N6IE.com
(Formerly N6AHA)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tõnno Vähk" <Tonno.Vahk@gildbankers.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: [TenTec] serious filter problem with Orion II


> Hi,
>
> that my 1st post here as a fresh OII owner. I am in the middle of the 
> first serious contest cqww160.
>
> Already in the beginning of the contest OII developed a following problem: 
> Whenever I play around with BW control and go narrower than ca 200hz 
> filters seem to completely mess up and I start to here the band extremely 
> wide, getting tens of signals and strange noises like hash and cracks on 
> top of that. Basically as if I was hearing the whole band. I have to do 
> restart to get rid of this. This has happened a few times already not even 
> changing the BW but working at ca 300hz. IT comes like a wave taking about 
> 5 sec maybe for the filters to completely lose themselves. I have had to 
> do ca 10 restarts and I try to avoid going narrower or BW at all.
>
> Has anyone seen anything like that? Running 2.037j here and NR or AGC 
> settings, etc do not seem to matter.
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
> p.s. having really hard time getting used to OII as it does not seem yet 
> in any way superior to my old trustworthy 95 vintage MP with all the mods 
> and filters. MP with INRAD roofing filter does not seem to be worse in any 
> way but is more quiet and signals are easier to copy in pileup. OII NR 
> causes distortion in signals and does not seem to improve S/N ratio, CW 
> sidetone is ringing and the volume seems to be not adjustable (?), S-meter 
> shows 59+60 for every decently strong signal:) I have gone through the 1 
> year of list archives about OII and tried to take all advice into account. 
> Hopefully will be able to get used to it finally.
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