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Re: [TenTec] Tuner and amp

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tuner and amp
From: John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net>
Reply-to: na9u@arrl.net,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:07:55 -0800 (PST)
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I think a 600 watt amplifier driven by 40 watss fits
quite well into this requirement.  It is actually 44
watts.  

John

--- "James C. Owen, III" <k4cgy_list@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>    Yes I am talking about GG amplifiers. Most take
> 75-100W drive
> for full output. If your Ameritron requires only 40W
> drive then
> that amp is on the verge of being illegal by FCC
> type acceptance
> standards. These standards have been proposed to be
> changed but
> to my knowledge it hasn't happened yet. FCC  97.317
> states to be
> type accepted the amp must not be capable of being
> driven to full
> designed power with less than 40 watts.  Not capable
> of
> amplifying the RF driving signal by more than 15DB
> unless the amp
> has a designed power of less than 1.5 KW.  To me
> this means that
> a grid driven amplifier on the market today is not
> legal since
> most of them would require much less than 40 watts. 
>    I'll be glad when this requirement is deleted
> from the
> regulations.  It was put in to prevent CB amplifiers
> but it was a
> failure as only the hams were affected. CB'er seemed
> to just use
> illegal amplifiers and get by with it for the most
> part.
> 73 Jim K4CGY
> 
> --- John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> > 40 watts is all I need to drive my Ameritron amp
> to
> > full power.  I think the Ten Tec amps take more
> input
> > power by design. 
> > 
> > 73, 
> > John NA9U 
> > 
> > --- Duane A Calvin <ac5aa@juno.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 50-75W input!  Yikes!  You must be describing a
> > > grounded grid 3-500Z amp,
> > > because my Alpha 99 would be "tuning up" at
> about 3
> > > KW, I think, with
> > > that much input power!   
> > > 
> > >         73,  Duane
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:22:12 -0800 (PST) "James
> C.
> > > Owen, III"
> > > <k4cgy_list@yahoo.com> writes:
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >    You don't need an ALC line from any linear
> when
> > > using a
> > > > ten-tec transceiver. Since the ALC adjustment
> on
> > > the TT sets the
> > > > maximum power that the transceiver will
> transmitt.
> > > Just tune up
> > > > the linear as normal with maybe 50-75 watts
> and
> > > then adjust the
> > > > ALC adjustment until the power output goes to
> > > maximum and leave
> > > > it there. At that point the linear has all the
> > > drive it needs and
> > > > the transceiver  won't transmitt at a higher
> > > level.
> > > > 73 Jim K4CGY
> > > > 
> > > > --- John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Speaking of amps, I never found a way to
> feed
> > > the ALC
> > > > > line back from the amp to the O2.  Is this
> > > unecessary
> > > > > on the O2?  Do I keep missing it in the
> manual? 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 73,
> > > > > John NA9U
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
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