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Re: [TenTec] Paragon brains gone

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Paragon brains gone
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:11:04 -0500
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If you use the old cheap regular battery instead of an alkaline, it will not
hurt it to charge it.  All the old regular non-alkaline batteries are
rechargable to a small extent.   In fact it will probably work for years in
this application.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Bell Mountain
Hays, NC 28635
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bwana Bob" <wb2vuf@qsl.net>
To: <wb2vuf@qsl.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Paragon brains gone


> Thanks also for the tip on putting  the  battery in a bag.
>
> As I think more about the Paragon battery issues, the following come to
> mind:
>
> In a pinch, an alkaline battery could be used, if you make up an adapter
> cable with a diode in series with it to prevent charging current from
> going into the battery.
>
> Maybe it would be better to relocate the battery outside the
> transceiver. There is a place on the back for an RS-232  connector, if
> that option is installed. One could fabricate a new cover plate with a
> jack on it to connect to an external battery. This would also allow for
> a bigger battery pack.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Bob WB2VUF
>
> Bwana Bob wrote:
> > Thank you all for the reminder! I had recently put in an alkaline
> > battery as a temporary replacement until I could find another
> > rechargeable 9V battery. This evening I opened up the Paragon. Sure
> > enough, the battery was leaking. Fortunately, it had not leaked on the
> > wiring or the board, but there was some corrosion on the aluminum
> > chassis. It could have been much worse!
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Bob WB2VUF
> >
> > Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The book says, Section 1-8  BATTERY BACKUP {regarding using a battery
for
> >>memory and this part is underlined}, " With the POWER switch in the ON
> >>position, and the PARAGON operating, install the battery in the holder
and
> >>plug the battery cable into the +9V connector located on the left rear
> >>corner of the large Logic Board".
> >>
> >>My experience in repairing radios where this was apparently not done in
this
> >>manner has been found to require replacement of the RAM chip.  Not good.
> >>
> >>DO NOT use an alkaline in a Paragon unless you intend to clean up the
> >>exploded mess inside the radio.  Tentec is WRONG in giving this
instruction.
> >>Ni-Cad works just fine.
> >>
> >>73
> >>Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "C Mark Cring" <n8coo@yahoo.com>
> >>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >>Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:08 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Paragon brains gone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Ken,
> >>>
> >>>This happened to me once.  Did everything you described.   Replaced
> >>>rechargable battery, still no joy.  Then tried powering  up with out
> >>>battery connected -  worked fine.  Connected new  battery (while still
> >>>powered up) and haven't had a problem since:   even when I turn off
power
> >>>supply a week or two it is OK.   I  would try a new battery.  I plan on
> >>>replacing mine again soon (it  is about 2 1/2 years old.)
> >>>
> >>>Incidentally, I put my battery in a small zip-lock bag (made for small
> >>>parts) and brought the wires out towards the top of the rig.
Hopefully
> >>>if the battery ever decides to leak or something bad happen  the bag
will
> >>>catch the chemicals and not drip down on the interior  (boards).
> >>>
> >>>Incidentally, the manual I received from Ten Tec, when I purchased my
> >>>Paragon in 2000, says you can use an alkaline or ni-cad.  THIS IS
WRONG!
> >>>I almost had a disaster.  Luckily  I noticed the  battery (alkaline)
> >>>getting warm before I put the covers back on and  removed it.  DO NOT
use
> >>>an alkaline in a Paragon unless you have  disabled or know the charging
> >>>circuit is not connected.  Otherwise  - Use ONLY a rechargable.  I
called
> >>>Ten Tec on it - don't know if  they ever changed their manual.  I know
> >>>this has been mentioned on  the list before, but figure it won't hurt
to
> >>>bring it up again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>73, Mark N8COO
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
> >>>Subject: [TenTec] Paragon brains gone
> >>>Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 08:52:16 -1000
> >>>To: tentec@contesting.com
> >>>
> >>>I was cleaning around the shack and had the 12 VDC power removed from
my
> >>>Paragon 585 (not a Paragon II) for an hour or so. When I hooked it back
> >>>up and turned on the 585, the controls are not working and the display
> >>>is not there. I have tried the RESET button on the right hand side of
> >>>the rig, and this does not fix it. I have not yet opened it up and
> >>>checked the voltage of the 9V NiCad memory battery. It has been
> >>>connected to 12 VDC power for a day now, and I would expect that
battery
> >>>to have recharged by now. If that battery is dead will the radio not
> >>>work, or will there just be no memory when the radio is powered off?
Are
> >>>there any other reset methods I need to try? Hold a certain button
while
> >>>powering up?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks DE N6KB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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