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Re: [TenTec] Orion with V2 rf gain

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion with V2 rf gain
From: "K Van Horn" <k7ec@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:36:48 -0600
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Hi Grant,

Thank you for your reasoned approach! I greatly missed having the meter movement go upward as the RF Gain was altered(to know where I was at signal strength wise), but I cannot write elequently as you do on the subject about why I feel this is so important!!

Please Gary, leave it like it is now!

Thanks and Merry Christmas to ALL!

Kirby, K7EC


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:25:27 -0600, Grant Youngman <nq5t@comcast.net> wrote:


With today's technology, it's not necessary to use this
indirect method.
Let's bury this dinosaur once and for all.

Not so fast.

The point of the S-Meter movement upward, as I recall the endless
discussions of all of this regarding the Orion, is to give you a notion of the MINIMUM signal that will impact AGC, via the THRESHOLD setting. If you
leave the S-meter reading unaffected, what does it tell you ... Not much.

This "artifact of a bygone era" is telling you what signal level is required
to affect AGC.  For example, if you have an s-7 average noise level, one
might, to keep things a bit quieter, increase THRESHOLD until the meter read about s-7. At least that was the point as I recall it, and I've always found it useful for that purpose. And why not? You are unlikely to hear any rare
DX below this level, anyway.  And it sure keeps the nosie level down,
without any reduction in RF (IF) gain.

The coupling of RF GAIN and THRESHOLD in one control in later Orion firmware
releases was done to satisfy a lot of people who couldn't get their brain
straight about THRESHOLD (the level at which AGC action would begin, RF GAIN
(really an IF gain control), and the fact that there were two separate
controls with quite different functions.

So T-T simplified things a bit by providing some THRESHOLD shift as RF gain is adjusted. But you can still set threshold as you like, since the control is still there. Perhaps, once again, some refresher on why this is set up
to do what it does would be in order :-)

Grant/NQ5T



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