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[TenTec] Omni/Pro -was Jupiter/Icom 746: what is "quiet"?

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Subject: [TenTec] Omni/Pro -was Jupiter/Icom 746: what is "quiet"?
From: bstephens1@mindspring.com (robert k stephens)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:32:31 -0500
Hi all,

Can someone try to explain this to me ? Why is Tim hearing more signals on
the Pro than th Omni V ? Is the Pro that much more sensitive ? -or does the
added filtering improve the signal to noise ratio ? -or maybe the DSP is
clearing up local pulse noise that was covering over weak signals on the
Omni V ? Do any of my guesses make sense ? -other explanations ?

tnx & 73 
Bob, KB1CIW

At 03:39 PM 4/1/02 -0700, [Tim] cyr999@extremezone.com wrote:
>Hi all - 
>
>I find it quite interesting that Joe has aid the Jupitor is quieter. I
have no 
>way of knowing since I have never even seen a Jupitor. What I am REALLY
curious 
>about is how the phrase "Quieter" is defined. In one sense, if you hear
nothing, 
>a rig will be really quiet! On the other hand a rig could be quiet yet in
doing 
>so shut out some signals you'd really like to hear. I know I sound like a
techno 
>idiot, but I am beginning to wonder what "quiet" is. Anybody care to share a 
>practical definition of a "quiet rig"?   
>
>
>I have an interesting last two months which I feel has opened my eyes a bit. 
>When I finally cleared up a few internal shack errors (with George's
help), my 
>756 PRO ran circles around my OMNI V. A took me a little bit of time to
sort out 
>some problems that I created when I rearranged my shack upon getting the
756 - 
>mainly ground loops and RFI. (One thing I did was hookup an external audio
amp 
>that is totally cool). Once my idiot mistakes were taken care of I could
truly 
>experience the 756 PRO. It is a phenomenal rig. 
>
>Now don't get me wrong, I LOVED that OMNI V and I love TenTec as a
company. I 
>still do and always will.  But I have to say that I feel I listened to the 
>"crystals are the only way" theme for too long and it made me narrow
minded. The 
>756 PRO is one terrific rig - no matter where it's made. 
>
>Now here's the interesting part - once I learned how to use it and got
used to 
>the characteristics of a DSP rig, I realized my "quiet" OMNI was not hearing 
>sigs the 756 was hearing. I know very little about interpreting the spec 
>comparisons as shown on Elecraft's chart for all the major rigs, but I do
know 
>what I hear in the shack. So how do we define a "quiet" receiver?
>


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