To clarify a bit further, David, if you are a citizen of Canada and hold a
US License, and you are operating a remote station in the US (no RF in
Canada), you operate freely, as is true for Canadian licensees that are
operating a remote station in Canada, but are located in the US (No RF in
USA). The citizenship of the licensee does not matter, as they are
licensed in the country, and permitted to operate in the country as their
licensee allows, and not subject to the agreement you refer to.
ARRL has spoken on the this arrangement (if you hold a us license, you can
operate from anywhere using a US station), and Dave Goodwin, VE3KG, RAC
liaison to ISED, has spoken about Canadian licensees operating remotely
from outside the country. Neither the FCC nor ISED, as far as I know, has
written anything in public about remote operations.
FYI, you cannot take your Canadian test outside of Canada -- but it can be
done on Zoom. You must cross the border to take it.
From the remote perspective, K1EP/VE9SZ, N3JT/VY1JT, VY2HF/W1PJ,
K6LA/VY2TT, N5DX/VA1EET are just a few examples of people operating
remotely from the US into Canada... and me, of course.
We still have a lot of people who are not educated on this matter who
operate RemoteHams stations thinking that either CEPT or just the
reciprocal agreement covers them. It does not.
73,
Gerry Hull, W1VE
Not a lawyer, but remote operating for more than 12 years, and doing my
best to follow the straight and narrow.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 11:08 AM K3ZJ David Siddall <davek3zj@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I would add to Gerry's caution that, unique to Canada, the only proper
> (legal) way to identify as a reciprocal operator is by your U.S. call sign
> FOLLOWED by the portable designator. It is "K3ZJ/VY1", not the other way
> around. (The reciprocal operating agreement predates the international
> change to putting country designators first.) Also, under the agreement
> and applicable rules, you MUST be a U.S. citizen to use your FCC license in
> Canada, and *vice versa*, you MUST be a Canadian citizen to use your
> Canadian license in the United States. Finally, if you hold a Canadian or
> U.S. license, you can use ONLY that license in the respective country.
> (You cannot operate as K3ZJ/VY1 if you hold a Canadian license.)
>
> [BTW, these last two also apply to using an FCC license as a reciprocal
> license under CEPT: you must be a U.S. citizen and not hold a license in
> the country that you are visiting.]
>
> These requirements are explicitly specified in the U.S./Canadian
> agreement, so doing it this way is not optional. They are the same for
> Canadian licensees operating in the U.S. See:
> https://www.rac.ca/operating/canada-united-states-reciprocal-operating-agreement/
> (Canada);
>
> https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-97/subpart-B/section-97.119#p-97.119(g)
> and
> https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/bureau-divisions/mobility-division/amateur-radio-service/reciprocal-operating-arrangements
> (United
> States).
>
> These limitations are not widely understood in our community, so I offer
> this in the hope that anyone taking advantage of Scott's generous offer to
> operate in VY1 avoids DQ afterwards. (IMHO, a warning would be appropriate
> for an unintentional i.d. infraction, with DQ only for a second offense;
> the other two requirements go to legal licensing and would be appropriate
> DQ justification.)
>
> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 8:57 AM Gerry Hull <gerry@remote.radio> wrote:
>
>> Scott let me do it once. Conplication is you must have a Canadian
>> Anvanced
>> Amateur to do that.
>>
>> In person, your US license is fine.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gerry W1VE/VY1AAA
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 1:54 PM Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Remote that station and you will have a list a mile long wanting to
>> > operate!
>> >
>> > W0MU
>> >
>> > On 9/10/2025 10:35 PM, Scott Sheppard wrote:
>> > > I am not sure what is permissible on this site with regards to
>> messages, so
>> > > I expect if I step out of line, the moderator will delete the message
>> and I
>> > > will be struck with a bolt of lightening!...until such time, here is
>> the
>> > > pitch:
>> > > I have recently finished a little Yukon cabin on our 9 acres in
>> Grizzly
>> > > Valley and would love to host some guest Ops for sweeps (or maybe even
>> > > other contests). Costs would be minimal and you would be well fed and
>> > > watered...
>> > >
>> > > Antennas are not elaborate by BIG contest station standards, but the
>> mono
>> > > band yagis for 15, 20 and 40 hold their own.
>> > >
>> > > November is going to be a busy time for me in other ways, and while I
>> will
>> > > be around, I can't put in the hours...
>> > > If you ever wanted to be on the end of a screaming pileup, November in
>> > > Yukon is the time.
>> > >
>> > > Whitehorse has regular Jet service from Vancouver and Calgary several
>> times.
>> > > a day. You are only a 2 hr flight out of Vancouver.
>> > >
>> > > Please reach out direct to my QRZ address if interested and we can
>> provide
>> > > more clarity.
>> > >
>> > > regards
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>>
>
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