Wait. Are you saying that use of the scoreboard should be MANDATORY for all
Operators?
73, Ron W3WN
> On Jul 1, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
>
> Everyone should be on be on the scoreboard so that people can watch. It is a
> competition. Would you watch the Indy 500 or other events if they did not
> have a scoreboard or leader board? Would you watch a baseball game with
> without scoring, balls and strikes etc? Not me.
>
> Does knowing this information really help me or others? I doubt it. At this
> stage of the game there are very very few unknown secret openings or rate
> periods. It is nice to see that more and more are adopting the use of
> scoreboards.
>
> Back to the spotting conversation.
>
> W0MU
>
>> On 7/1/2023 9:29 AM, kq2m@kq2m.com wrote:
>>
>> Scoreboards are informative and fun to watch, and this usefulness brings
>> about my main objection to their use being allowed by the NON-Assisted ops;
>> that watching a scoreboard provides valuable information about band
>> openings, rate and what is likely being worked on the band(s), by whom and
>> when. In some ways scoreboard info can be even more useful than actually
>> viewing DX cluster spots which only tell you what is being spotted and by
>> whom, not who/what is actually being worked in real-time. I believe that
>> use of the Scoreboard constitutes Assisted operating since this real-time
>> information is provided by others DURING the contest.
>>
>> For these reasons I personally do not look at scoreboards when I am
>> operating NON-Assisted, regardless of whether or not the SOABHP category
>> allows it. I believe that the contest committees seriously erred many years
>> ago when they gave their blessing to scoreboard use by the */NON-Assisted/
>> *ops along with several other forms of real-time technology including
>> skimmer.
>> Why Mike and others feel the need to "get everyone to use scoreboards" is
>> baffling to me. Why not get others to develop and improve their OPERATING
>> SKILLS instead?
>> And, NO, there are many among us who DON'T "accept automatic spotting on
>> every mode"; rather, we have learned to live with it because we have no
>> control over it and have not been left with a viable alternative except not
>> to operate.
>> Regarding SSB spotting in WRTC, I can see both the pros and cons of doing
>> this and the strong opinions already expressed. Each WRTC committee is
>> charged with making their own rules and each WRTC event has introduced new
>> ideas and competition "tweaks" to experiment with them. Some have been
>> great and others not, but it is part of the ongoing evolution of WRTC (just
>> as in the Olympics) and it will be interesting to see how this hybrid form
>> of SSB spotting turns out.
>> Both WRTC and technology sure have changed a lot since the groundbreaking
>> event took place in Seattle, WA, some 33 years ago. It is still one of the
>> highlights of my life!
>> I wish the 2022 WRTC Committee and all judges, support people, participants
>> and competitors, a most awesome and wonderful event!
>> CU in IARUHF!
>> 73
>> Bob, KQ2M
>> In 2023-06-30 18:13, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
>>> I don't see much of an issue. CW spots are automatic with RBN and skimmer.
>>> Why not SSB spots? IARU could change their rules. Same for any other
>>> contest. Maybe this is how we get everyone to use scoreboards. If you
>>> use the scoreboards you get spotted on SSB.
>>>
>>> We accept automatic spotting on every mode but SSB simple because we don't
>>> have a good way to do it. Maybe this changes that......
>>>
>>> W0MU
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