For an inexpensive small IBM Compatible PC , go to eBAY and search for 
NUC6i5.  You'll find some starting under $100.  The Intel NUC6 comes in 
two sizes, one little over 1" tall and one about 2.5" high.  I recommend 
the one using the Core i5 CPU.  K3LR uses 18 of them for Contesting and 
6 of the newer NUC7's for his Proteus-based Skimmers).  I use a NUCi5 
with DX Log, Win-Clus and N1MM+ (mainly DXLog).  The smaller NUC only 
uses M.2 SSD's.  The taller version has room for a 2.5" Disk in addition 
to the M.2 SSD
 About half of K3LR's NUC's were USED and bought off of eBay, as are the 
several I use.
73 --> Dave, W9PA
On 2022-11-23 02:19, Michael Adams wrote:
 Over the summer, I joined the Mac family when I was looking for a 
lightweight laptop with decent power, good battery life, and the 
ability to charge off USB-C.   I got it because my work laptop is so 
locked down as to be unusable for personal communications, and my 
current Windows laptop and its power brick are rather bulky, and its 
battery life sucks.  (It's a "gaming laptop" -- lots of memory, lots of 
power, great graphics...all at the expense of a high power draw.)
 There are a lot of things I like about the Mac, but after a couple of 
experiences of using it with a transceiver when operating 
portable....I'm not a fan of the ham software I've used so far with it.
 Perhaps that's more a reflection of my being used to the ham software 
available on PCs, and not having taken the time to climb the learning 
curve for the relevant Mac applications.  But I'm thinking about going 
portable for a QSO party in the spring, and I've started to contemplate 
the logistics about lugging my Windows laptop for that adventure, so I 
can use N1MM.
 My $0.02 worth for the original question -- For "just a shack 
computer":
 * an i5 or an i7 processor (or whatever the AMD equivalent is), speed 
mostly irrelevant
* at least 16GB RAM (you could probably make do with 8 if you never 
multitask)
* solid state drive, size determined by other uses (probably minimum 
500GB)
* minimum 1 HDMI/DP port if you have an ultrawide monitor; 2 such ports 
if you're using normal-width monitors
* if you need it and get a desktop, add a real serial port, either by 
PCI card, or if the motherboard supports it, cabling the port directly 
into the appropriate socket on the MB
* extra sound interface (a good USB fob is probably sufficient) for 
interface with the transceiver
 If you splurge, my preference would be for extra money to go towards 
extra RAM first....but that's a reflection of my bias towards running 
too many programs on a computer at once.
 The most recent Windows machine I bought for ham purposes was an 
impulse buy of a small (5"x4.5"x1.5") no-name PC off Amazon: 
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0977YQT3K   I got it for less than 
$300 a year ago.   I was uncertain about buying an unknown Chinese 
brand machine, but at that price it seemed like an acceptable gamble 
for a project toy.
 It's not my shack computer, but it is running my cluster node, some 
home automation tasks, and I've done some Office work on it as well 
without issue.  I expect it'd be fine for most ordinary shack purposes. 
 It's advertised as being able to be mounted on the back of a monitor 
(saving desk space/reducing desk clutter), but I'd be a little 
concerned about doing that if the monitor tends to run warm.
 I haven't looked to see if there are newer/better such machines 
available on the market; I imagine there might be.  I wouldn't be 
terribly surprised if some of those had discounted prices on Friday.   
Just read through the reviews before buying, to reduce the risk of 
investing in a lemon.
--
Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
-----Original Message-----
 From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+mda=n1en.org@contesting.com> On 
Behalf Of Gary J Ferdinand
Sent: Tuesday, 22 November, 2022 16:03
To: af5cc@fidmail.com
 Cc: Gerry Hull <vy1aaa@vy1ja.ca>; Ron Notarius W3WN 
<wn3vaw@verizon.net>; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] new hamshack computer
I'd get a Mac of appropriate size :)
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