Let me also be perfectly clear - I almost always use spotting, because I 
hate the cycle of tune-check-dupe-repeat that is the essence of S&P.  My 
concern is that if self-spotting is allowed, it will become just another 
area for an "arms race" among the most competitive.  I don't need 20 
stations across a band, all of whom I've already worked, spotting 
themselves every 15 seconds, while all the others go unspotted.
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/19/2022 2:31 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
 
 What does "generating spotting information for use by other stations" 
mean?  To me that's massively obscure - does it mean it's OK for you 
to spot other stations?  I hope so, but it's not obvious.
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/19/2022 12:47 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:
 
Every contester should read the contest rules _before_ entering the contest. From this 
year’s ARRL Sweepstakes rules:
"Generating spotting information for use by other stations is not considered to be 
spotting assistance."
Also, the old prohibition of self-spotting is no longer in the rules.
You might want to check out the rules before 2100Z…
73,
Jack, W6FB
 
On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR<pete.n4zr@gmail.com>  wrote:
I've been appalled by how few stations spot in phone contests, even though N1MM+ 
(and perhaps other contest logging programs) offer the option of spotting all 
S&P QSOs, regardless of mode.
It's been suggested to me that some non-assisted contest entrants may be 
deterred because of concern that they might risk disqualification if frequent 
spots attributed to them are seen on the cluster network.  If that's a 
significant deterrent, which seems somewhat credible, then perhaps the sponsors 
of the major contests should singly or collectively announce that the 
appearance of spots attributed to non-assisted competitors will not, by 
themselves, be considered  evidence of assisted status.
Then how would illicit assisted operation be detected?  15 years ago, CT1BOH 
and VE5ZX authored a paper on how to identify undisclosed two-radio or assisted 
operation through log analysis.  With the capabilities now available to us, and 
the near-universal acceptance of open logs, it seems to me that the means exist 
for detecting undisclosed assistance without making assumptions based on 
spotting.
So what say, contest organizers?
--
73, Pete N4ZR
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