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Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE COPY

To: Michael Walker <va3mw@portcredit.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE COPY
From: Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:24:23 +0000
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Nothing wrong with this default message.

I believe the error is that guys send the exchange message when they are 
calling someone.  So as the CQer, it is a bit confusing to see an exchange 
printing when I had not responded to someone.  Finally, the call appears at the 
end. 

I have learned to type in the info and do a normal reply.  99% of the time, the 
other guy sends his thanks message and we are done.

This is definitely an area for education of new RTTY ops.  Perhaps the N1MM+ 
docs might be a good place to comment on proper calling practice.  I.e., use 
this message to call, this message to work...

Randy K5ZD


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On Behalf 
Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:04 AM
To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Cc: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE COPY

This is the default N1MM exchange in S&P

F2 Exch,{TX}{ENTER}! {EXCH} {EXCH} {MYCALL} {RX}

And, I think it is correct.  I  might have copied your call only once and I am 
not going to wait around in S&P mode for a few of your cycles of you are run 
especially since many only send QRZ and not their call.  It isn't as bad as it 
used to be, but 1 in 10 stations do not send their call with their QRZ message 
evertime.  There is only a finite number of contacts that can be made.  :)  6 
more seconds won't make any difference, except for Mike ve9aa who is reading 
his email at the same time.  (his words, not mine).

It makes sense from both sides.

Mike va3mw





On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:51 AM Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> I swear, Randy was reading my mind. It's almost exactly what I wrote 
> in my
> 3830 report last night.
>
> Is there a software package out there that this is the default S&P 
> macro for RTTY?
>
> Pretty sure it's not N1MM+ that has this as a default.
>
>
>
> 95% of very casual ops won't/don't read this list, so it's up to us to 
> put those comments in our 3830 reports, here (yes, most won't read it) 
> , our local clubs, DX clubs, contest clubs etc and inform those just 
> starting out in contests. WE need to reach out to those writing 
> software, who are amazing coders, but maybe not contesters, to "fix" 
> this. Grumbling here is great, but we need to go beyond that.  I 
> operate almost no RTTY (but was on during 'WPX this past weekend), so 
> it's not going to be me
>
> to reach out to the programmers, etc. but I have mentioned this to our 
> local contest club which has a few newbies.
>
>
>
> Remember, if it weren't for the casual ops, newbie and wander-by's, 
> we'd have very few others to work !
>
>
>
> Randy/K5ZD wrote this: "I want to know why RTTY ops always send my 
> call when they are calling me.  So
>
> many times I would hear my call print in the clear and then there was 
> QRM from
>
> other callers when they were sending their call.
>
> ."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> CU (all of a sudden!) in the next one.
>
> -Mike VE9AA
>
> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
> Keswick Ridge, NB
>
>
>
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