MSHV is a program that can answer multiple FT8 calls at the same time, 
as can WSJT-X in Fox mode.
Gordon - N1MGO
On 8/6/2019 17:19 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
 
 Well, I've read the contest rules several times, and they don't 
specifically make the same "one signal per band" limitation for single 
op that they do for multiop.  I agree that it is assumed, but again 
... the rules don't specifically rule it out and we all know from past 
experience that loopholes tend to be exploited.
 And I am absolutely certain that these were three separate QSOs with 
three different stations.  I should have taken a screenshot. The 
contacts were within the same 15 second window, with different 
stations, and with different signal reports.  And as I said, it 
happened again a short while later with two completely different 
stations.  These were not images, and they were not the staggered 
transmissions that we can do while overlapping more than one contact.
 I'm pretty sure you can run multiple instances of WSJT-X as long as 
you specify different rigs for each.  If you check out 5T5PA's page at 
QRZ.com you can clearly see that he is a pretty smart guy and that he 
has multiple rigs.  Probably the simplest way would be to use three 
instances of WSJT-X driving the same sound card and talking to three 
rigs via different com ports.
 Regarding DXCC eligibility, what I saw did not appear to be any more 
automated than normal FT8 contacts.  They didn't need to be. If he 
called CQ on three different frequencies, WSJT-X handles everything 
from that point on if he clicked the "Call 1st" box. He would still 
have to manually enable the next CQ's, but that wouldn't be difficult 
to quickly do three times.
 I think it's all kind of clever, but I wouldn't want to see it in the 
contest.
73,
Dave   AB7E
On 8/6/2019 1:17 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
 Dave - is this actually REALLY quickly synchronized separate 
transmissions to 3 different stations?  Or are there 3 simultaneous 
transmissions occurring at exactly the same time?  If it’s the 
former, its certainly serial single op worthy - I do this all the 
time while contesting - just not as fast as a computer.  If it’s the 
later, then it would be "more than one signal at a time".  That would 
violate current rules in all categories I believe.  Even Multi-Op 
stations can only have one signal at a time on a distinct band.  Of 
course I am assuming that a "signal" is the roughly 50hz of 
individual beeps and not the 3khz of computer managed bandwidth.  All 
definitions to be finalized with this new breed of contest category. 
Illustrating how non-human controlled it really is.
 Interestingly, and on a different subject, whether 5T5PA is actually 
compliant with the new DXCC rules making such contacts ineligible for 
DXCC is another topic.  I believe that the next contact cannot be 
made without a human engagement.  So was it semi-automatic or 
automatic fire?  And is that engagement needed as part of a "stack 
build" or real time - the initial DXCC language was not too clear.
Ed  N1UR
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Of David Gilbert
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 3:10 PM
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Subject: [CQ-Contest] WW-Digi Contest -- Rule Clarification
 Although it is certainly implied, the rules listed on the WW-Digi 
website do not specifically prohibit using more than one signal at 
the same time ON THE SAME BAND for the single op category.  They say 
that transmission can only be on one band at a time, but they don't 
say you can't make multiple transmissions at the same time on the 
same band.
 The reason I bring this up is that I just witnessed 5T5PA making 
three separate FT8 transmissions on 20m to three different stations 
all within the same fifteen second window.  A short time later I saw 
two separate transmissions from him to two different stations (and 
different stations than the previous three), again all within the 
same fifteen second window.  Each simultaneous transmission was 
spaced exactly 60 Hz apart, and the software cleanly decoded all 
signals as if they were from different callsigns.  5T5PA expertly 
managed all the QSOs cleanly.
 Interestingly enough, even though I've worked 5T5PA before, JTAlert 
only labeled one of the three as a dupe.
 I can think of more than a couple of ways 5T5PA could be doing this, 
and for casual operation I see no problem with it.  For a DXpedition, 
it might even make a lot of sense.  I don't remember it being against 
FCC/other laws, but I could be wrong about that.  In any case, it 
seems to me that it could open up the possibility for some 
controversy in a contest.
Or maybe I'm just crying wolf here ...
73,
Dave   AB7E
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