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On 5/3/2019 2:03 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
And things like state QSO parties which are done for fun and not for
serious competition (mostly).
Manny state Qso parties have serious competition example:
NEQP New England Qsp party (this comming weekend )
CQP California qso party
GQP Geiorgia Qso party
FQP Florida Qso party and several others.
I would say no serious entrant would ever consider using
FT8 in one of these contest. And yes I do operate a little
FT8 .
73 BoB WA1FCN
From what I gather nobody’s saying put FT4 in the biggest contests which
are CQWW CW or SSB or even CQWW RTTY. Maybe in RTTY roundup and field day
(which is not a contest). RTTY roundup has always welcomed digital modes
other than RTTY.
And yes a separate contest would work too but for some events organizers
could mix it in, as it is done already.
And things like state QSO parties which are done for fun and not for
serious competition (mostly).
Ft8 has had a minimal impact on contests where it is allowed today and I
doubt that would change. The only exception is VHF and up but on the flip
side it has also increased participation in general which is good for
contesting.
Ria
N2RJ
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 2:53 PM K5WA <k5wa@comcast.net> wrote:
And I could win Olympic ski jumping with a helicopter…technology
progresses on, right? Apples to apples OM.
From: Sterling Mann <kawfey@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:24 PM
To: K5WA <k5wa@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FT4 - Robotic Contesting
Bob,
That is true, but I think it's irrelevant. If our human brains could copy
FT4 (and RTTY for that matter), it'd be an apples to apples comparison to
CW and phone. But we cannot. It is apples to oranges. But that doesn't stop
us from competition against each other in an FT4 contest.
Technology progresses humanity to give us ability beyond that of the
human, and technology progresses in amateur radio are no different. That's
my point.
-Sterling N0SSC
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:13 PM K5WA <k5wa@comcast.net <mailto:
k5wa@comcast.net> > wrote:
Sterling,
Your argument would carry a lot more water if you had the skill to copy FT4
in your head.
Bob K5WA
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:01:53 -0500
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In the beginning, there were people. And people raced on foot. And then man
domesticated the animal, and raced that. And then man got creative, making
cars, planes, boats, trains, rockets, and so on and so forth...and raced
them all.
Ham radio is the same. In the beginning there was CW. And then phone. And
then RTTY. And then BPSK. And so on and so forth, until now with FT4.
What I'm getting at is that FT4 contesting will still be just as much fun
as
CW, SSB, and RTTY, and just as competitive. But, I think now after reading
a
negative opinion or two on CQ-contest, QRZ, eHam, reddit, and elsewhere, is
that the contesters ingrained in CW, phone, or RTTY radiosport will be hard
pressed to believe me. Meanwhile contesters of modern-day modes will have
as
much fun with FT4 as those who have been contesting with CW for their
lifetimes and it makes me sad that they'll be unlikely to share that
experience. So, I challenge the naysayers to give it a try. I promise you
that the "robot" you QSOing with will be no different than the N1MM
automation that manage 99% of a contact already.
-Sterling N0SSC
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