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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Contest Committee comments on audio recordings (wa

To: "'DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL'" <kr2q@optimum.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Contest Committee comments on audio recordings (was MM3AWD)
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:39:43 -0600
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Hi,

The rules give a false impression. They say 'MUST record' ...  Which you now
say will only be required when something suspicious or curious in the log is
identified by the committee.
You have now clarified the recording rule. An operator DOES NOT have to
record the contest to win or place in the top five. The wording of the rule
needs to be changed to reflect the current practice. 
The committee is to blame for the jumping to and posting irrational
conclusions because how the recording rule works was withheld.

The recording rule should be changed to ... SHOULD record the ... A
non-cheating (with regard to QSOs) operator would have a slim chance of
being DQd because of no record.

C. Audio Recordings: Any single operator entrant (see V.A.1) competing for a
top five finish at the (a) World, (b) Continent, or (c) USA levels,
including Classic Overlay, must record the transmitted and received audio as
heard by the operator for the duration of the contest operation. The
recording must be in a common format (e.g., mp3) and should include the
audio to each ear as a separate channel. The recording must be a continuous
recording (not a recording of individual QSOs). Time "off the air" (when not
transmitting or receiving) does not have to recorded. The recording may be
requested by the Committee within 120 days after the log deadline to help
adjudicate the log. The recording files must be provided by the entrant
within 5 days of the request. If no recording is made available, the
Committee may reclassify to an appropriate category, reclassify to
Administrative Check Log, or disqualify the entry.

Doug

"Political correctness is a weapon used to silence people who tell the
truth" - Ayaan Hirsi Ali 

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Sent: February-04-18 5:28 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Contest Committee comments on audio recordings
(was MM3AWD)

It is not the practice of the CQWW Contest Committee to respond publicly 
to comments about individual entries.
  After discussion within the committee, the following short memo was 
deemed appropriate.

1.      As with all requests for an audio file, this log contained a number 
of unusual events and QSOs.

2.      Using our globally placed SDR network (which copied MM3AWD perfectly

well) we did not hear
those QSOs take place, so he was asked for a recording.

3. A recording was not provided, so the Contest Committee took the 
action of exercising Rule XII (C),
which states: "If no recording is made available, the Committee may 
reclassify to an appropriate category,
reclassify to Administrative Check Log, or disqualify the entry." 
http://cqww.com/rules.htm

4.      Of the three options available, Administrative Check Log was deemed 
the most appropriate.


We don't ask everybody in the "top 5" for a recording.  We need 
something suspicious or curious.
Please see the July 23, 2017 BLOG, item #4: 
http://cqww.com/blog/2017-cqww-rules-update-announcement/

Here is an excerpt from the blog:

[Editorial comment: It is important to note a few things about the 
"recording" rule.  First, 2016 was not the
first year for this rule.  Second, the committee does not and will not 
request a recording simply because
an entrant is in the top 5.  The committee will request a recording when 
something suspicious or curious
in the log is identified by the committee.  This can be a statistical 
flag or something identified after human
review.  The committee does not request a recording in an attempt to "go 
fishing" for something "out of the blue"
or "without reason."  If you are not breaking the rules or trying to 
stretch the rules beyond the letter and/or
spirit of the rules, you are probably not going to be asked for a 
recording.]


It would be helpful to any discussion on CQ-Contest if the commenters 
would be familiar with the CQWW
Rules before jumping to and posting irrational conclusions.

Doug, KR2Q
on behalf of the CQWW Contest Committee
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