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Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

To: Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:17:16 -0500
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The difficulty with being obstinate about following rules to the letter is 
situations vary and rules are often vague. The check is certainly in that 
category.

If you are a guest op, is it YOUR year of first licence or your host’s? If 
you’re using his callsign, using your check muddles matters. If it’s a multiop, 
whose check? If you were to follow the rules to the letter, you might have each 
op giving out his own check (it’s not exactly clear when all it says is “the 
year you were first licensed.”)

Further: the rules also state quite clearly “the decisions of the ARRL are 
final.” The ARRL has decided it will not enforce checks (pretty hard to do, 
anyway). (Which is not the same as saying you get away with miscopying a check, 
merely the League will take no steps to determine if VE4XT really was first 
licensed in 1982. (I was.))

So, if you’re obstinate about following rules and the rules say the ARRL 
decisions are final, then you must accept there is some deliberate vagueness to 
the rule and stop worrying about it.

73, kelly, ve4xt 



> On Oct 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Have to agree with James. Rules pretty clear on what the exchange is.
> Check is"year first licensed", not some two digit number I made up to
> change things up. --Mike, WV2ZOW
> 
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:23 AM,  <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lessee, now. This discussion began concerning the ARRL Sweepstakes
>> contest(s).
>> 
>> Seems to me that a legitimate entry must follow the rules for the exchange,
>> and those rules are specific. I don't see where any of the exchange elements
>> can be fudged, or "negotiated."
>> 
>> If you don't plan to submit your SS log you can fudge anything you want --
>> except your call sign. But that's not playing fair.
>> 
>> K1TN
>> 
>> 
>> 4.1. A consecutive serial number;
>> 
>> 4.2. Precedence;
>> 
>> 4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);
>> 
>> 4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
>> 
>> 4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
>> 
>> 4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited Single-Op Unlimited High Power and
>> Single-Op Unlimited Low Power both send "U")
>> 
>> 4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op (Multiop High Power and Multiop Low Power both send
>> "M")
>> 
>> 4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
>> 
>> 4.3. Your Callsign (remember that you must include your call sign during the
>> exchange)
>> 
>> 4.4. Check
>> 
>> 4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either the
>> operator or the station.
>> 
>> 4.4.2. An entry must send the same Check throughout the entire contest.
>> 
>> 4.5. ARRL/RAC Section (click here for the official list
>> <http://www.arrl.org/contest-sections-list> )
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----------
>> 
>> I've been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep them on their
>> toes.
>> 
>> 73
>> Ria, N2RJ
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> When I saw the post about Call History Files for SS, and then saw the post
>>> for the site where you can get them, I was tempted to put in some bogus
>>> data -- change CK 60 to CK 69; change name Art to name Ari.  But I'm not
>>> quite that cranky.  Yet.
>>> 
>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Where possible, I routinely "update" my exchange from the last contest,
>>>> just to confound those who use "pre-loaded" data file crutches.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Art Boyars
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:01 PM
>>>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
>>>> 
>>>> E-mail chatting with N4ZR, who has relocated from WV to MD.  Pete muses
>>>> that a lot of people who rely on SCP or Call History (or whatever it is)
>>>> "to save on typing" will bust the QSO by logging him as WV.
>>>> 
>>>> I can see it now -- a cry for making the data files official; perhaps
>>>> prohibiting people from relocating or using a different name.
>>>> 
>>>> "All participants must register in the official Call History File.  Your
>>>> log must contain the data as reported in that File.  Scoring will be in
>>>> accordance with that File."
>>>> 
>>>> Just think of all the typing we'll save!
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>>> who hopes you took this in fun (sort of)
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