Hey, I did it once, called P40w out of band (hi John). I did get an OO note the
next week. I straight out blew it, and noticed about 10 seconds after the QSO.
Oopps
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73 de KG2V
Charlie
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Many stations, including even the current CQWW Contest director, have at
> times worked stations outside the US bands. I have been at several DX
> locations in contests where US stations have called me while I was below
> the US band working Eu. I gave up trying to explain things, I just work
> them. None of the stations i worked in CQWW SSB 2016 were DQd. I have a
> list of the US stations from this year that I worked outside the band. But
> you can get DQd for getting spotted too many times by someone.
>
> On Apr 13, 2017 9:02 PM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed. They violated FCC rules which I believe the rules state is a DQ?
> At the very least we all agree to abide by them.
>
> Operating outside the band is about as big a violation you can get.
>
> It is defined under unsportsmanlike conduct.
>
> *A. Unsportsmanlike Conduct:*Examples of unsportsmanlike conduct include,
> but are not limited to:
>
> 1. Arranging or confirming any contacts during or after the contest by
> use of ANY non-amateur radio means such as telephones, Internet,
> instant messaging, chat rooms, VoIP, email, social media or web sites.
> 2. Transmissions by the entrant on frequencies outside of license
> limitations.
> 3. Changing times in the log to meet band change or off time rules.
> 4. Taking credit for excessive unverifiable QSOs or unverifiable
> multipliers.
> 5. Signals with excessive bandwidth (e.g., splatter, clicks) or
> harmonics on other bands.
> 6. Running stations not identifying in a timely manner (i.e., 1 minute).
>
>
> The reason that such a small penalty was given was because of the
> extensiveness and stations that did it. How many of those logs were
> massaged to indicate that the qso took place inside the USA band when it
> did not or removed completely? Was this checked? How many nils did the guy
> that was outside the USA band get from USA entrants. How many very known
> USA stations did this? A friend of mine said he heard many big time
> Multi's working this station.
>
>
> Not following the 10 minute rule is detailed under
>
> *IX. GENERAL RULES FOR ALL ENTRANTS:*
>
> 1. Entrants must operate within the limits of their chosen category
> when performing any activity that could impact their submitted score.
>
> Please direct me to the paragraph in the rules where I can learn how to
> break the 10 minute rule and then X-qso out those "illegal" contacts to be
> whole again.
>
> Time and time again stations are given a pass, why? Is it any wonder
> people continue to push the rules. Self spotting is a bigger offense than
> operating outside your band?
>
> Contesting appears to be a culture of looking the other way and as I learn
> more it has been happening for a very long time. We would like to think we
> are the best. If so then abide by the rules, especially our license rules.
>
> A penalty of removing the qsos is less than a slap on the wrist. Sorry CQ.
> You had a chance to send a strong message. The one you just sent was
> indeed there is plenty of USA/NA bias.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 4/13/2017 8:03 AM, Steve London wrote:
>>
>> One of those DQed is a YB who made about 50 QSO's, and may not even
>> understand what self-spotting is. But the worst that happens to a USA
>> contester, who knowingly or carelessly works stations out-of-band, is that
>> he/she loses the QSO and gets a slap on the wrist.
>>
>> That's simply a message to USA contesters that, in the future, they have
>> nothing to lose (except possibly the QSO) if they work stations out-of-band.
>>
>>
>> Steve, N2IC
>>
>>
>> On 04/13/2017 03:50 AM, w5ov@w5ov.com wrote:
>>
>> Out of band: Most out of band qsos were disallowed for those who were out
>>> of band for the QSO in question – this was applied globally. Often, one
>>> party is legal on a frequency, another is not. Those who operated out of
>>> their band were penalized and given no credit for those qsos / mults. No
>>> one was DQed for this offense regardless of country / zone etc. Some who
>>> exhibited excessive carelessness about this matter were given formal
>>> warnings.
>>
>> Along with the other absurdities, the thought that USA / VE was given any
>>> favor is again completely without any merit.
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