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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public

To: "John Dorr" <cqk1ar@gmail.com>, steve.root@culligan4water.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public
From: steve.root@culligan4water.com
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:20:41 +0000
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Thanks John. That's an excellent example.

73 Steve K0SR

-----Original Message-----
From: John Dorr [mailto:cqk1ar@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 03:46 PM
To: steve.root@culligan4water.com
Cc: kr2q@optimum.net, kzerohb@gmail.com, 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public

 Hi Steve,In response to your request for an example: 
UT5UGRhttp://cqww.com/blog/ut5ugr-log-padding-in-cq-ww/Speaking purely as a 
private citizen, I can assure you that no log checkinggroup has achieved 
perfection. All log checkers can benefit from an outsideset of eyes to: 1) vet 
checking errors and 2) identify bad actors thatremain undetected. We got real 
lucky in the case of UGR, whose years ofcheating would have gone without 
penalty had it not been for theavailability of open logs.Keep this in 
perspective guys; you're not being asked to post your taxreturns or brokerage 
statements.73, John, K1AROn Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM,  wrote:> The crux of 
the matter of course is what actually constitutes an> actiionable "issue". I'd 
like to see a clear cut example of a discrepancy> in a log that would lead to 
an action by the contest sponsor....a> discrepany that wasn't found by normal 
log checking procedures. Anything> else has a high probability of being a witch 
hunt. False accusaions of> cheating will lead to acrimony.>> 73 Steve K0SR>>>> 
-----Original Message-----> From: DXer [mailto:hfdxmonitor@gmail.com]> Sent: 
Saturday, January 7, 2017 08:17 AM> To: kzerohb@gmail.com, kr2q@optimum.net, 
cq-contest@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now 
public>> I had the same uneasy feeling, Hans.It sounded like a call for the> 
'vigilantes' to go to work.If some 'issue' is found, it has to be dealt> with 
of course, but the approach to achieve this was not the best.73 de> Vince, 
VA3VFOn 2017-01-06 10:37 PM, kzerohb@gmail.com wrote:> Doug, this> is possibly 
the most disturbing message that I have ever seen on this> reflector.>> 
Essentially you, wearing your “Director of CQWW” hat, have> gone out to the 
worldwide fraternity of Amateur Radio sportsmen and> said…..>> “Hey, guys, here 
are the logs of everybody who played in this> Amateur Radio contest. Would you 
please be a good citizen and have a look> to see if you can find some cheaters 
among your fellow hams in there. We> look forward to your result, Comrades. 
Here’s a special mailbox.”>> I> really wanted to help MWA in the club 
competition, so I sent in a small> log. Probably too small to worry you about, 
but have a look anyhow. Because> it’s the last one I’ll submit.>> 73, de Hans, 
KØHB> "Just a boy and his> radio"™>> From: kr2q@optimum.net> Sent: Saturday, 
January 7, 2017 2:09> AM> To: cq-contest@contesting.com> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 
CQWW 2016 SSB> logs now public>>> Please see 
http://cqww.com/publiclogs/2016ph/>> For> the last two years, the contest 
community has used the public logs to> assist the CQWW Contest Committee in 
finding possible “issues” with some of> the logs. We look forward to your 
feedback again this year.>> You may send> your findings and concerns to: 
questions@cqww.com>> Please base your> findings and concerns on an actual log 
review and not simply on your> suspicions.>> Thank 
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