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Re: [CQ-Contest] Observations of a young ham

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Observations of a young ham
From: Taylor Kelly <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:24:27 -0600
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Hi Mike,

This is great insight to how your son’s generation sees things.

I don’t think it will make any difference to your son’s outlook, but I would 
just point out a few things, below:


> On Dec 18, 2016, at 11:42 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> 
> I had the opportunity to talk to my son in more detail and ask him why 
> contesting does not interest him.  Here is what we discussed.
> 
> 1.  Cost to get in the game and have a chance to win is prohibitive.  You 
> need a great station, land, etc to really win or compete.  The playing field 
> is so unbalanced that it becomes a show stopper.  For him he has no costs 
> when at home.  I consider my station modest with a 70 ft tower and land to 
> put up Inv L's and full sized 80m verticals and some receiving antennas.  I 
> could do more but we have horses and they need to roam and are hell on things 
> in the pasture.
> 

Depends on what you mean by ‘win’. Win overall? From Montana? You’d need much 
more than the greatest station on Earth to win WW from Montana (just like from 
Manitoba!) With more realistic goals, ‘winning’ is indeed doable. You might not 
win overall, but you can win a region. Then there’s SS, where some elements of 
God’s gifts to stationdom work against you (really high top antennas, etc.).

Don’t forget that Bruce, now ZF2NT, once travelled to Panama and using wires 
and a stick in the mud from a run-down shack not only won ARRL DX, he set a 
record that stood for some time. So it’s certainly possible to trade investment 
in hardware for investment in plane fares for a fun factor. Take a package to 
northern Jamaica and run W/VE whilst sipping on Red Stripe overlooking the 
Caribbean Sea.

One doesn’t have to run like N6MJ to have fun. 


> 2. You have to invest a lot of time to get good.  If he can not have a really 
> good station then why invest the time to get good if you are not going to be 
> able to really compete.

Related to above. 

> 
> 2. The tools we use to contest, logging software, packet look like old dos 
> programs.  He called them ugly and boring.  He is used to amazing graphics in 
> games.  I found this observation interesting.  I feel that the tools we have 
> are pretty good and give me what I want to see readily available.  I was not 
> expecting this answer.
> 

Can’t argue this point. The software we have is superb to our needs, but it’s 
hardly attractive.

> 3. He is far more interested in using packet where he can immediately chase 
> things.  Packet essentially gives him a list of things to do or goals.  It is 
> more visual so more interesting.  He thought that more automated systems 
> would be interesting.  Young people and even us older folk expect things to 
> happen much faster.  They are the generation of instant satisfaction and some 
> of that even rubs off on us older folk.
> 

Is there a better time to be chasing DX spots than during a DX contest?

> 4.  Talking to someone over the airwaves is still pretty cool. You can 
> instantly talk around the world if the right condx exist, but we can talk all 
> over the world with our phones so it is not as amazing as it once was.
> 

We’ve been superseded by technology.

> 5. CW is interesting but he was surprised that we don't have better code 
> readers.  While he would like to learn the code time is once again the 
> factor.  They have so many other outlets for entertainment that it is hard to 
> find time for all of them.
> 
> 6.  Results take far too long to come out

Catch 22. We want quick results, but we also want the work done by volunteers 
and some want superhuman effort to catch cheating. Something’s gotta give.

> 
> 7.  He proposed that all participants use a scoreboard type system.  Many of 
> us have said this was something we need to do but have instead met with 
> amazing resistance and a ton of excuses why people refuse to use it.  A 
> system where everyone can check it out and see what is going in in the 
> contest.  We are back to visuals.
> 

I think that could work with the right safeguards in place.


> 6. Playing radio in the car driving is fun because there is not much else to 
> do but drive.
> 
> 7. He has his general license but he does not have the technical skills or 
> electronic knowledge to build a shack or decent station.  I am not a great 
> teacher especially to my own kids so I take some of the blame for this but it 
> is hard to teach people things when they don't want to devote much time to 
> it.  I feel a reluctance to even try to do something without having the 
> proper knowledge.  A far cry from when I was young and tried all sorts of 
> silly antennas and projects that mostly failed miserably but boy did I learn 
> from those mistakes.
> 
> That pretty much summed up our hour long conversation and I am no closer to 
> figuring out how to sell ham radio and contesting to them.  I hope some will 
> find this information helpful and interesting.
> 
> W0MU
> 
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