Don't take it that personally.  If getting the max S&P rate is the 
objective, waiting a few more seconds would probably be worth it.  After 
all, what's the time required to move to the next frequency, decode the call 
and wait for the Q to finish?  That's the alternative to waiting a few more 
seconds and the decision to move probably leads to lower rates.  You are 
certainly not teaching a guy (who's probably busy for one reason or another) 
a lesson by not calling him either - he probably has no idea you called.  Of 
course if it's an assisted category contest then you don't have the decode 
time - but you still need to confirm the guy is the one spotted, and wait 
for his Q.  Modes and band condx play a part as well.
 It seems better to me to assume the other guy is doing his best, and do the 
things that make sense to you - regardless of what the other guy is doing. 
If that means QSY immediately because you don't want to wait, great.  If 
that means waiting it out, also great.
73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
 -----Original Message----- 
From: Barry
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 6:47 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R op's
It also ties in with the no ID issue in that it's a case of "my time is
more important than your time."
If I call someone and they haven't responded by the time I count to
three after my call is complete, I'm gone.
Barry W2UP
On 9/6/2015 12:38, Eric NO3M wrote:
 The key is to practice until your are managing radios by reflex and muscle 
memory, knowing how to dictate the flow and cadence of QSOs, how to use 
your logger to truly interleave exchange elements, etc.
There are a number of weekly mini-tests where one can practice SO2R:
Phone Fray (SSB) Tues.
CWops CWTs (CW) on Wed.
NS RTTY Sprint Thur
NS CW Sprint Thur
 The CWops events are 1 hour, the rest 30 minutes.  The NS CW Sprint will 
really put your SO2R abilities to task, but regulars will accommodate your 
speed, etc.  The CWops CWTs would be less stressful for someone new to 
SO2R.
GL and stick with it.
73 Eric NO3M
On 09/06/2015 07:31 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
 
Hi Tom,
I hope I was not one of those that left you hanging.  If you read my 3830
 reports from the 2 last sessions of the CWO, you'll see I tried SO2R for 
the
vy first time yesterday. (with less than stellar routing of audio to my
 ears, as my interface is not yet built, so I am only using the 
Winkeyer-USB
keyer and N1MM+ to keep me honest and only 1 signal will be transmitted 
at a
time, but it's full stereo audio to my ears--ouch)
 A few times, because I was either taking too long on radio B, or the fact 
I
was weak (100w & small antennas) , I lost my run frequency, so I just 
sucked
it up and moved on with radio A (run).
 I also get frustrated when I come upon a clear QRG, say "QRL" once or 
twice,
get no response, then get trounced by a very loud (apparently) SO2R op 
who
was off on radio B or in the washroom, etc.
 I'll never be a powerhouse uber signal to be reckoned with, but by the 
same
token I hope not to turn into one of those guys.  I am learning as I go 
as
there is no course for SO2R.  What I learned yesterday was I had better 
pay
close attn. to Radio A and only call someone on Radio B when time allows,
lest I get bullied off Radio A's frequency, hi !
Mike VE9AA
 
 
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