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Re: [CQ-Contest] in light of the claimed CQWW cw scores....hard data

To: kr2q@optimum.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] in light of the claimed CQWW cw scores....hard data
From: Diego Dimunzio <ddimunzio@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:49:22 -0200
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Hi Doug,
I know that for DXCC Aruba is SA as Barbados is NA and even Grenada which
is further south than Aruba is NA, but that is the DXCC i have not idea
what is the criteria they use for assigning the continent for each country,
there must be a good reason, something that is clear is that Central
America does not exist for them. What i was trying to point out is that for
practical analysis i wouldn't say Aruba counts for SA given the clear
geographical advantage this location has against stations that are
southernmost.

Thanks
Diego - LW5HR


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM, <kr2q@optimum.net> wrote:

> Thank you Diego, however, Aruba is South America for CQWW and DXCC.
>
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/dxcclist.txt
> http://www.ng3k.com/Dxcc/dxcc.html
> Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!!
>
> de Doug KR2Q
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Diego Dimunzio
> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013 1:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] in light of the claimed CQWW cw scores....hard
> data
> To: kr2q@optimum.net
> Cc: CQ-Contest
>
> > Hi Doug
> > Just one correction on your list, Aruba
> > > factbook/geos/aa.html>isnot SA, that changes the results a bit.
>
> > On the other hand you can easily see that winners are all close
> > to the
> > Ecuador CQ zones (8,9,10,35,36,etc) but there is another thread about
> > scoring.
> >
> >
> > 73
> > Diego - LW5HR
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:38 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > First, I think it is good that when someone observes a score
> > that seems
> > > "wrong," that they
> > > shine a light on it. As has been posted before (many times),
> > "If you
> > > suspect something, not
> > > only should you say something about it, but tell us who it is."
> > >
> > > Second, there is a wealth of information (data) available for
> > the CQWW.
> > > It is a simple matter
> > > to "check" before you draw conclusions or make accusations.
> > This is true
> > > for those who
> > > "attack" the accuser as well.
> > >
> > > Shown below are the top 5 SOABHP cw scores, showing
> > continents, going back
> > > to 1999. I
> > > created a file going back to 1986 for the top 500 scores, but
> > that was too
> > > much to add here.
> > >
> > > A few comments (on data for CQWW CW, SOABHP, going back to 1986):
> > >
> > > What continents have won first place?
> > > Africa: 17 times
> > > SA: 10x
> > > no others
> > >
> > > second place?
> > > Africa: 10 times
> > > SA: 15 times
> > > NA: 2x (2009 and 1986)
> > >
> > > third place?
> > > Africa 7x
> > > SA: 15x
> > > NA: 4x
> > > AS: 1x (2001)
> > >
> > > So based on that, I would say that LU5DX was correct to
> > QUESTION the score,
> > > but not to accuse him of behavior outside the rules.
> > >
> > > Because NA has NEVER won (since 1986), that is good reason to
> > call for
> > > extra scrutiny.
> > >
> > > If anyone wants the data for the top 500 scores since 1986
> > (CQWW CW,
> > > SOABHP)
> > > in excel 2010 format, please let me know and I'll be happy to share.
> > >
> > > It is also easily available from the cqww.com pages.
> > >
> > > de Doug KR2Q
> > >
> > > score call cont YEAR (overall rank since 1986)
> > year rank
> > > 15,221,316 CR3E AF 2012 5 1
> > > 14,206,275 EF8M AF 2012 13 2
> > > 13,170,634 PZ5T SA 2012 19 3
> > > 13,151,040 P40F SA 2012 20 4
> > > 11,839,500 CR2X EU 2012 41 5
> > > 15,846,012 EF8M AF 2011 3 1
> > > 15,673,940 PZ5T SA 2011 4 2
> > > 15,151,668 CR3E AF 2011 6 3
> > > 12,487,489 P40W SA 2011 32 4
> > > 11,810,760 8P5A NA 2011 42 5
> > > 15,117,795 EF8M AF 2010 7 1
> > > 14,208,754 CR3E AF 2010 12 2
> > > 13,498,728 PZ5T SA 2010 17 3
> > > 11,864,348 V47NT NA 2010 40 4
> > > 11,728,152 P40W SA 2010 47 5
> > > 11,142,327 EF8M AF 2009 61 1
> > > 10,552,524 V47NT NA 2009 85 2
> > > 10,363,860 CR3E AF 2009 91 3
> > > 8,793,603 8P5A NA 2009 150 4
> > > 8,678,109 CN2R AF 2009 157 5
> > > 12,150,138 3V8BB AF 2008 36 1
> > > 10,883,558 CT3NT AF 2008 68 2
> > > 10,201,212 V47NT NA 2008 96 3
> > > 9,617,985 PZ5TT SA 2008 118 4
> > > 8,856,694 8P5A NA 2008 146 5
> > > 13,112,736 3V2A AF 2007 21 1
> > > 10,673,421 P40W SA 2007 79 2
> > > 9,695,355 V47NT NA 2007 115 3
> > > 9,040,800 8P5A NA 2007 138 4
> > > 8,684,269 A45XR AS 2007 156 5
> > > 12,524,928 CT3NT AF 2006 28 1
> > > 12,257,136 3V6T AF 2006 35 2
> > > 11,511,600 P40W SA 2006 52 3
> > > 11,031,930 V47NT NA 2006 65 4
> > > 11,017,652 PZ5ZY SA 2006 66 5
> > > 12,489,525 CT3EN AF 2005 31 1
> > > 11,100,243 P40W SA 2005 64 2
> > > 9,902,340 8P5A NA 2005 106 3
> > > 9,626,226 A45XR AS 2005 117 4
> > > 8,834,449 ZD8A AF 2005 149 5
> > > 13,605,364 D4B AF 2004 15 1
> > > 11,484,894 EA8ZS AF 2004 53 2
> > > 10,597,877 P40Q SA 2004 81 3
> > > 10,488,336 A45XR AS 2004 86 4
> > > 9,447,417 8P5A NA 2004 123 5
> > > 15,943,070 P40E SA 2003 2 1
> > > 14,226,301 D4B AF 2003 11 2
> > > 11,440,230 KP3Z NA 2003 56 3
> > > 10,837,434 A45XR AS 2003 70 4
> > > 10,267,632 P3F AS 2003 92 5
> > > 14,251,216 P40E SA 2002 10 1
> > > 11,191,146 P40Q SA 2002 60 2
> > > 10,076,400 P40W SA 2002 100 3
> > > 9,300,480 A45XR AS 2002 126 4
> > > 8,765,820 6V6U AF 2002 152 5
> > > 12,516,906 EA8EA AF 2001 30 1
> > > 10,812,725 3V8BB AF 2001 72 2
> > > 10,720,332 A61AJ AS 2001 76 3
> > > 10,006,568 8P9Z NA 2001 103 4
> > > 9,877,730 P40Q SA 2001 107 5
> > > 18,010,765 EA8BH AF 2000 1 1
> > > 12,524,160 P40E SA 2000 29 2
> > > 11,797,800 3V8BB AF 2000 44 3
> > > 9,176,174 8P9Z NA 2000 129 4
> > > 8,786,811 A45XR AS 2000 151 5
> > > 14,626,579 HC8N SA 1999 8 1
> > > 13,577,850 P40E SA 1999 16 2
> > > 13,097,214 EA8EA AF 1999 22 3
> > > 11,729,116 3V8BB AF 1999 46 4
> > > 9,727,320 ZD8A AF 1999 113 5
> > >
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